Children's rhymes

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  1. strictly quadrilateral

    strictly quadrilateral alive, alive, alive!

    Was reading this thread just now and asked a friend what the local rhymes are, and at some point we got to "ring around the rosie" and she said something about it being evil. I was confused and asked about this, and she said it was about raising the dead. I got distracted explaining about the plague, and then asked what the story she knew was. I had a hard time following it but it had something to do with experimentation and television. We got interrupted so i didnt hear the whole thing; im going to ask her later or next week because ?????????what
     
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  2. Marimo

    Marimo Member

    Variations of a couple of the rhymes above that we used for hand clapping games:

    My name is (arms start forearms over each other in front of you lifting one on 'name' and the other on 'is')
    Cinderella dressed in yella
    Went to the ball to meet a fella
    By mistake she kissed a snake
    And went home with a belly ache (at which point you tickled the person you were playing with's stomach)

    Looking at that rhyme now kissing a snake and ending up with an ache in your belly is kinda dodgy.

    It would appear that this one is a frankenstein of a few rhymes pushed together:
    Apple on a stick
    Can make you sick
    make your heart beat 2/46
    Not because it's dirty
    Not because it's clean
    Not because you kissed a boy
    Behind a magazine
    Boys, Boys
    They're a lot of fun
    But here come the girls
    With the blue jeans on
    They can do the pom poms
    They can do the splits
    But I bet you five bucks they can't do this
    (Here we had two versions so either you slid your feet apart to the count of three and repeated the whole rhyme until someone fell over or you continued on)
    Now close you're eyes
    And count to ten
    Whoever messes up
    Is a big Fat hen
    (close your eyes and keep playing while counting to ten)
    So you didn't mess it up
    And you're not a big fat hen
    But the next one to move
    Is a bumblebee
    And that will not be me
    (on 'that will not be me' clap once for each word then freeze and hope the other person moves first.
     
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  3. Penumbra

    Penumbra hiding under cloth

    has everyone here heard of the "joe" hand game? there are two i know, actually
     
  4. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    Sounds kinda like the japanese kid's song 'Kagome, Kagome' (circle, circle) getting a creepypasta attached to it and a creepy-sounding Vocaloids' cover so that no westerner can ever hear it without getting shivers ever again XD Maybe it's a corruption of a similar urban myth?

    (On the subject of japanese playground songs, I need to learn the Tanuki song better because any song about balls going 'swing swing swing' is exactly my jam XDD)
     
  5. TwoBrokenMirrors

    TwoBrokenMirrors I'm sorry, I wasn't listening

    My mum taught me a few little rhymes when I was small... some of them were bits of more adult songs or poetry but there were a good number of little self-contained ones. They're mostly tricky ones like

    'I saw Esau sitting on a seesaw,
    How many esses in that?'

    and 'Constantinople is a very long name, if you can't spell it, you are a nit'

    Or wordplay like
    'Ask your mother for sixpence,
    To see the new giraffe,
    Spots on his neck and spots on his
    Ask your mother for sixpence'

    'When I was a hill all covered in grass,
    Down came a monkey sliding on his-
    Don't be mistaken girls,
    Don't be misled!
    Down came a monkey,
    Sliding on his head!'

    I never really played clapping games, I know there were a couple but I had no friends and nobody would teach me so I don't know what they were. I vaguely remember playing something like london bridge is falling down once though, though the rhyme i remember that ends with 'and here comes the chopper to chop off your head' and is about bells...

    'Oranges and lemons say the bells of St Clements
    You owe me two farthings say the bells of St Martins
    When will you pay me say the bells of Old Bailey
    When I grow rich, say the bells of Shoreditch
    When will that be, say the bells of Stepney
    I'm sure I don't know, says the great bell of Bow

    Here comes a candle to light you to bed,
    Here come a chopper to chop off your head,
    One, Two, Three!'
     
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  6. strictly quadrilateral

    strictly quadrilateral alive, alive, alive!

    tracked down the friend and got her to tell me the whole thing from the beginning, and i'm still confused about some parts but for the most part it makes sense in an urban myth sort of way:

    way back when, televisions were different and not as safe, and a bunch of people died from them, including a little girl's best friend. the girl and her friend had been making up a little rhyme (ring around the rosie), but hadn't finished it before the friend died. the bodies were all burned, for some reason or other, and the little girl added the "ashes, ashes, they all fall down" line and finished the rhyme. also she sold her soul to the devil ("she didn't know better. she was just a kid. she still is.") but that seemed added as an afterthought.

    i asked my friend who told her that, and she said everyone knew it. by this point another friend had joined us, and i asked her if she knew it and if so who she'd heard it from, and she said that her grandmother had told her about it.
     
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  7. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Oh! The one I know goes
    Miss Mary Mack Mack Mack
    All dressed in black black black
    With silver buttons buttons buttons
    All down her back back back
    Asked her mother mother mother
    For fifty cents cents cents
    To see the elephants elephants elephants
    Jump over the fence fence fence
    They jumped so high high high
    They didn't come back back back
    Til the fourth of July July July
    Hmm, there's more but I don't remember it. Pretty sure I heard this one on tv and not in the wild though lol

    We had this one too! But we always had a rule of "no counting!" Because we were smart little shits who knew how to get people out lol that's why we never used eenie meenie miney moe...

    There was an add on to it* though that we sometimes used
    my mother told me to pick the very best one and you are not/now it

    Edit: *it being eenie meenie miney moe
     
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  8. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    There were these call and response songs we did at camp and stuff.

    The one with my family was:
    All: Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar? [1] stole the cookies from the cookie jar!
    [1]: Who, me?
    All: Yes, you!
    [1]: Couldn't be!
    All: Then who?
    [1]: [2] stole the cookies from the cookie jar!
    [2]: Who, me?
    Etc

    The one from camp was
    All: A-ring a-ring a-ringa ring ring ring Hey [1]!
    1: I think I heard my name!
    All: Hey [1]!
    1: I think I heard it again!
    All: You're wanted on the telephone!
    1: If it's not [2] then I'm not home!
    All: A-ring a-ring a-ringa ring ring ring Hey [2]!
    Etc.
     
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  9. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Okay, last post.

    There was this bumble bee song. I think most people know the first few verses but my friends and I made up a few more to keep it going...
    Warning it gets a little gross, lol
    [Cup your hands like there something in there and sway them back and forth]
    I... Caught my self a baby bumble bee!
    Won't my mommy be so proud of me?
    I caught myself a baby bumble bee!

    Ouch! It stung me! [Jerk back]
    [Start squishing your hands together]
    I'm... Squishing up my baby bumble bee.
    Won't my mommy be so proud of me?
    I'm squishing up my baby bumble bee!

    Ew! It's all over my hands! [Make grossed out faces]
    [Pretend to lick your palms]
    I'm... Licking up my baby bumble bee!
    [...]

    Ugh! I don't feel so good. [Hold your stomach]
    [Make a heaving motion]
    I'm... Throwing up my baby bumble bee!
    [...]

    Ew! It's all over the floor!
    [Start a sweeping motion]
    I'm... Mopping up my baby bumble bee!
    [...]

    Hmm I don't remember the rest. Something snit throwing it out? But Idk what comes after that xD
     
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  10. Marimo

    Marimo Member

    We had those other verses to the bumblebee song too. When we did it the first verse was "I'm bringing home a baby bumblebee" so after mopping it up there was something about putting it in a bucket and then repeating the first verse
     
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  11. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    ours went:
    X marks the spot/with a circle and a dot/spiders crawling up your back/they bite! they bite!/spiders crawling up your back/they bite! they bite!/cool breeze [beat]/tight squeeze [beat]/now you've got the shiveries!
    these regional/temporal variations are really interesting!

    @Deresto we had the "Cinderella/dressed in yella" one too, with the same words, I think! and @Birdy we had the same bubblegum one for choosing, plus the Tarzan one, with slightly different words:
    Tar-zan/the mon-key man/swing-in' by/a rub-ber band/pop goes the rub-ber band/what col-or was his blood?
    everyone would sing it, and there would be a designated person going around the circle pointing at someone for each syllable, and whoever they pointed at for the last syllable would name a color. then they would point at someone for each letter as we spelled out the color, and once we were done we'd say the color again and they'd point at one last person, and they would be out. I was that contrary little shit who picked colors like "chartreuse" that no one else knew how to spell. :P

    our version of Eenie Meenie Miney Moe went:
    eenie meenie money moe/catch a tiger by the toe/if he hollers/let him go/eenie meenie money moe/my mother/told me/to pick/the very best one/and you/are/it!
    (trying to capture changes in inflection with the line breaks there.)

    @Re Allyssa we had the same cookie jar one, except the line was "not me!" instead of "couldn't be." we also had one about skunks and stinks, I think to the same rhythm? you also named someone else if you got accused.

    we played these at summer camp, mostly, when we were herded together with nothing else to do, like on the bus. maybe other kids played them at recess or something, but I avoided other kids at recess. :P and it wasn't exactly a rhyme, but for some reason we'd sing Queen's "We Will Rock You" on the bus together??? and stamp/clap to it??? this part specifically:
    buddy, you're a young man, poor man/swingin' in the street/gonna take on the world someday/got mud on your face/you big disgrace/kickin' your can all over the place
    then the chorus. the singing was, invariably, terrible, especially because the range of those lines is pretty big, since, y'know, Freddie Mercury. :P

    for reference, this all was like 2008-2012 or so, so fairly recently!
     
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  12. Deresto

    Deresto where is my brother sasuke

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  13. Marimo

    Marimo Member

    For eenie meenie miney moe we had tigger (instead of tiger) and squeals instead of hollers. Years later my friend's mum informed us that when she was a kid it had the n word. We always ended it with "pig snout pig snout you are (not) out" or pig snit if we wanted someone to be it for tag or whatever.
     
  14. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    oh! oh! we'd do one called concentration, which was always hard for me to do because you had to like, hold your hands out? one palm-up, one palm-down, with your friend's done the opposite way, so you could clap out the beat in the weirdest way possible. that, combined with doing it fast, the way the game worked, and clapping normally between every verse made it a Challenge for smol me :') it went like this, with two weird claps per line

    let's play (clap clap clap)
    concentration (clap clap clap)
    no repeats (clap clap clap)
    or hesitation (clap clap clap)
    [one kid says this, then the other] i'll go first (clap clap clap)
    i'll go last (clap clap clap)
    category is (clap clap clap)

    and then you'd list like "colors" or something, and you had to keep up the clapping while you took turns naming stuff
     
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  15. Birdy

    Birdy Everybody knows shit fuck

    Three seems to be the magic number in a lot of these: three claps, or three repetitions of a word
     
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  16. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    Eenie meenie miney mo variation:

    Eenie meenie miney mo,
    Catch a tiger by the toe.
    If he hollers,
    Make him pay
    Fifty dollars every day!
    My-mom-told-me-to-pick-the-very-best-one-and-you-are-not-it!

    The last part was very chant-y.
     
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  17. strictly quadrilateral

    strictly quadrilateral alive, alive, alive!

    the one i know is:

    eeenie meenie miney mo
    catch a tiger by the toe
    if he hollers, let him go
    out goes Y-O-U
     
  18. Chiomi

    Chiomi superhero

    Okay I love the various myths around Ring Around The Rosie and I think they're kid culture almost as much as the rhyme. http://www.snopes.com/language/literary/rosie.asp

    And I used to love skipping games until my knees were too fucked to do it very much. Our variant of the Cinderella one was 'by mistake she kissed a snake.' We also had Teddy Bear, Teddy Bear, which was the cutthroat double dutch one where you tried to do the actions and then make it all the way through and switch out at the end. There was also Miss Lucy, but I don't remember how that went, just that it wasn't as popular as Cinderella because it had an end point. Also! There was a book After Hamlin that I was obsessed with for a while as a kid because skipping rhymes were magic.

    Clapping games were also excellent. We has Miss Mary Mack, of course, and Miss Suzie, but because I was in French Immersion we also had Un Elephant.

    It went something like -
    un elephant se balancait
    sur un toile toile toile d'araignee

    something something elephants on spiderwebs and it was one of the ones where at the end you slap someone's hand as hard as you can. This could be played in a circle or one on one - the one on one gestures being more complicated, of course.
     
  19. Deresto

    Deresto where is my brother sasuke

    Oh, another jump rope game we did (that most certainly had more lines to it but no one knew them) was the pepper song.

    It went something like "yellow pepper green pepper orange pepper" with a steady spin of the rope while saying different colored peppers, then you yelled " red hot chilli pepper!" and spun it way too fast for the jumper to keep up with.
     
  20. sirsparklepants

    sirsparklepants *cries in sports*

    We also had "shame" the clapping game, which was played by placing the backs of your right hand against your partners' and then clapping either above, below, or your own hand in the middle. Every time the rhyme repeated you clapped in the same place, but otherwise you moved up and down. The very beginning was you brushing your hands together against your partners (I really don't know how else to describe it.)

    Shame, shame shame.
    I do get wanna go to Mexico no more, more, more
    There's a big fat policeman at the door, door, door
    If he grabs you by the collar, girl you better holler
    I don't want to go to Mexico no more, more, more
    Shame!

    There was a variant where the policeman made you pay a dollar, too. Which is... Pretty astute commentary on border control for elementary schoolers, I think.
     
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