Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    On topic fandom griping though. Soulslikes fans get really weird about like there being shit that is really good. Like you don't have to use fucking sloth talismans and they're useless in higher difficulties anyway, Nioh players. Please calm down and stop telling the people who are using them to get through the game that they're shitty people that don't deserve video games. Not everyone playing Nioh is going to become a way of the demon by myself motherfucker. Some people are just going to beat it the one time using summons and sloth talismans and that's fine? They already nerfed the damn things.

    I love hard games a lot and think that the difficulty of things like Nioh is key to why I enjoy them but also like...It's fine if there's overpowered shit in the game. And it's fine if that stuff lets someone who might not otherwise beat the game beat it. There's definitely a pride to take in getting good at a game and you should be allowed to feel accomplished for learning shit or doing a tough thing but like...Toxic pride that involves shitting on other people who aren't as into that kind of enjoyment is ass.
     
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  2. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    It's double stupid because dumb cheese strats can also ease people into playing harder non-cheese styles, too. Even if you're straight-up playing on God Mode, you can get a sense for like, range and movement and timing and where you should be looking on the screen and the kinds of patterns the game is likely to pull on you, so if you decide you changed your mind and would like to get your ass kicked, actually, you've got some confidence and systems knowledge to help you get over the first slopes of the learning curve.
     
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  3. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Finding dumb cheese strats is also like. An extra layer of fun even when you are good at the game. Because you start going "Oh, if I use this and this and this I can one shot the boss maybe?" These can also be very useful for farming and farming is a major part of Nioh's gameplay loop. Part of the fun of farming in games like this is finding the most efficient ways of doing it. Sloth? Sloth made farming efficient as fuck.
     
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  4. HonestlyVan

    HonestlyVan a very funny person who never tells jokes

    I've definitely found interacting with the speedrun portion of a soulslike game's fandom more pleasant than the regular side of the fandom :'|
     
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  5. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    man okay SO this is going back a ways but like
    back to fate nonbinary/trans characters, there are a SHOCKING amount of canon ones
    BUT
    i feel seriously uncomfortable with them being described as like? good, intentional rep?
    because several of them feel like an attempt to "degay" characters, and while I A Nonbinary Person know that an enby flirting with someone can be exactly as gay it doesn't seem like the fate writers considered that
    it's like how there's definitely bisexual female characters, but their bisexuality is used for fanservice or a joke, and all the bi male characters...don't get to have focus on that.
     
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  6. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    YEAH like. And all the ones where it's not like. Creepy jokes about how lascivious it is that you ~don't know~ are NB for magic reasons. And it's awesome and all when someone has transcended to a higher plane of existence and become too cool for gender but when the writing is so weird and creepy about every single instance where a person has The Genders just, like, the way a person does going about their life, it. Puts a damper on that.

    still want someone to write a Mordred character study where every chapter is a different interpretation of their gender and exploring their relationship to it because as far as I am aware canon has NEVER actually given Mordred's POV on their feelings, just used "gets mad if called a girl" as a Wacky Character Quirk.
     
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  7. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    no one in fate can just Exist As Trans. they have to be like. a supercomputer or a fusion of multiple spirits or made out of clay or a creepy horrible pile of jokes (looking at you, d'eon)

    and dear god. OKAY SO. mordred is my ABSOLUTE FAV whom i have at level 100 and i'm working on 10/10/10 skills.
    i am so tempted, now that you've said that, to write that fic.
    because My Personal Lean is transmasc enby but that's obviously affected by me being a transmasc enby.
     
    • Agree x 1
  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Mordred is excellent and there's genuinely so much thematic depth to exploring that, given their history! What does it do to a person to know they're the child of a woman who magically compels everyone who looks at her to see her as a man, and then have to hide their face for literally their entire life because they don't have a sword imposing the concept of kingship to do that for them? But canon just Will Not because we gotta cater to the creepy straight dudes every second of every day and I guess hinting at gender nonconformity is transgressively sexy but acknowledging that people can have genuine feelings about their gender is too icky.

    And then the not-creepy-dude Western fandom just gets into huge fights with each other over different Mordred headcanons when really, we should all be banding together to rescue Mordred from the writers of canon.
     
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  9. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    in between the creepy dudes going "ooooo sexy tomboy, trans people are gross and shouldn't touch our franchise" and the discoursey side going "NO ONLY ONE HEADCANON IS CORRECT" i've given up on any good trans content coming from fate fandom
    if people aren't arguing about mordred they're arguing about astolfo and that one's equally exhausting
     
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  10. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    It's especially dumb because everyone into this godforsaken franchise already has to slow-roast canon for juicy bits as a matter of course because of a) the massive disparities in writing quality and characterization both within and across installments and b) the fact that half the damn series isn't available legally stateside and a significant subset don't have translations at all.
     
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  11. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    i cannot hit the agree button hard enough
    like????? digging for lore in this fandom is hard enough, and everything is wildly nonsensical and has been retconned at least 8 times.
    you can just go "gender is what you make of it" and Drop The Argument
    god but seriously tho i want us to get a Normal Human who's nonbinary
    it will Never Happen Ever, i know. but pls.
     
    • Agree x 3
  12. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    No, person on the internet, I do not think it is a good idea to look at North fucking Korea as a writing inspiration for a Fantasy Country in a story where a bunch of sympathetic characters are soldiers or agents of the government.
     
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  13. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Baffling claims made by fans #102828: that Dave Strider was "obsessed with Jewish weddings". He made an extended metaphor about them once and appeared in a scene of newlyweds being waved around on chairs which included everyone. What?
     
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  14. GlassesBlu

    GlassesBlu Conceit/Contempt/Contrite

    Sometimes streamers/letsplayers do a grating voice for characters and it can be a huge turn off. Sometimes its on purpose but a lot of times it isn't. Personally just think its a rly bad choice and makes their gameplay unlistenable
     
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