Discussion in 'Your Bijou Blogette' started by HonestlyVan, Feb 16, 2020.
Lathework is great.
That's it, that's the update.
A great big irony is that a lot of the people who have been targeted by cringe culture and bullying in the past are much better at recognising when something is "cringe" than either the people who go "bullying people is good, actually" or the ones very loudly performing an anti-cringe culture position (when those aren't coming from the same person)
They just know to be cautious about pointing out when someone is acting incongruous, because for them, cringe/social cache/respectability is not a matter of self-loathing but of actual, existant power dynamics.
Vindictive little thought I have any time someone goes "don't interact with x their call out post said xyz about them" -- make a call out post that similarly says xyz about someone perpetuating wank like that and just have all the links point to an empty HTML doc that just says "don't believe everything you read on the internet" (or maybe a similarly cherry-picked ship-of-Theseus example)
Oh except maybe the last one that is like "engages in harassment campaigns again other people". That one can have actual proof.
I know that a part of being the bigger person is not stooping to someone's level but I think that public socmed callouts posts have p much lost all their believability anyway, (and besides that callouts with actual proof of harassment and interpersonal violence never spread as far b/c people rightfully decide that a person like that might actually be Dangerous) so why not weaponise the format?
This is about people calling Gaud a child molester and rape apologist again, btw. Not that they can bring themselves to use those words so they just gesture to a story Gaud has publicly engaged with with those themes.
BTW does anyone else wish that depressed/anxious people in fandom would realise that when autistic/ADHD/developmentally disabled folks talk about neurotypicals disrupting fandom and the social dynamics of heightened interest and enthusiasm, we mean them?
Like, that your social anxiety doesn't excuse you from perpetrating cringe culture? In fact a lot of socially anxious folks absolutely double down on social acceptability as a commodity fetish that comforts them and soothes their fears, making it that much harder for people who are fundamentally unacceptable to be in fandom with them?
I will probably never stop being mad at non-DD neurodivergents in fandom ruining "keysmash excitement" for the rest of us, disrespecting the language of the fandom and being so comfortable in assuming they Know how to do fandom because all their problems are the result of being easily frightened by other people, and then turning around to police people who have been in fandom longer than them for finding that suddenly itvs become incomprehensible as a social space.
*looks for my gloves for two solid weeks*
*gives up an brings a new pair*
*gloves are magically discovered in the one place I hadn't checked*
Not to sound painfully online but y'know that video where Matt Slimethough calls the Quartering his dark half? That's me with Sarah Z.
Okay maybe that's a little harsh. Nothing about her strikes me as "someone I need to actively be worried about interacting with"
I'm just also aware that I'm exactly the kind of person she'd dismiss as someone who takes things too seriously and fodder to be mockingly alluded to as the kind of people who are okay to laugh at/make fun/treat with derision/feel morally superior over/openly mock/harass/wait how did that last one get here/we're just BETTER than those people/it doesn't MATTER how we feel about them it's just true on its face
"I feel comfortable kicking fandom folks bmc I am one! Ha ha ha! Disregard of the feelings of people I think I'm like is okay!"
And of course people in fandom gotta be able to rant about fandom. But if you're gonna do it in a space that has people who aren't in fandom in it, it does feel a little like you think fandom itself is the reason "those people" act in ways that are worth mocking.
Like.... "this would not happen if these people were not in fandom. Fandom would be much better if the batshit weirdos didn't keep finding it. "
Altho altho further to be clear I'm also kind of an anti-mockery absolutist. I do not see the value in hurting anyone. I don't get what it's supposed to contribute.
My attitude is "if I feel the urge to ridicule something/someone, my time is better spent actually critiquing it". I let my steam out in other ways.
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