High five! I loved that I was actually genuinely afraid of the kaiju, actually. I kind of in fact wish there had been more punching. God I love those giant robots. I'd seen some of the meta before I saw the movie cos I saw it pretty late- like juuuust before it left theatres- but I wasn't even really thinking about it while I was watching it because I got too caught up in the actual movie. xP =) Thank you! Yyyyeah I just end up feeling bad because I tend to end up liking the fanon versions of the characters more than the canon versions, heh, and it seems vaguely. Disloyal? It's stupid, but all of these feelings are stupid. That's fair enough! I'm not watching Steven Universe because it's been hyped to hell and back and I take hype avoidance to a ridiculous extreme. At this point I'm not watching it at least partly because I'm afraid I'll enjoy it, which is. Completely ridiculous. I also don't like Adventure Time (though I like Gravity Falls a lot!), and I have seen some of that, and it just... something about it reads off to me. I've seen maybe two episodes? and both of them I spent in a state of vaguely alarmed bemusement rather than enjoyment... Pfft it depends on the dystopias! I just- I know that a lot of depressed people prefer dark, edgy stuff because it feels realer, but I'm of the kind that tends to grasp for any kind of positivity I can find. And sometimes stories about people triumphing over dystopias are great! But oftentimes they're too grey and miserable and I just end up getting more depressed.
Another one: Sucker Punch, the movie. I don´t quite buy nanlysis that says it´s progressive, or that´s it´s misogynist, so either I´m a traitor to feminism for liking it, or I´m liking it wrong, either way.
@TwoBrokenMirrors i feel you on adventure time. like, it just made no real sense to me, seemed too random or something... which makes the stuff about at's deep themes that i sometimes see on my dash come off weirdly for me.
Yeah... yeah pretty much. I mean... if I watched more of it maybe I would see, but to be honest I'm kind of just not very inclined to. My boyfriend describes it as 'dadaist', hah.
@TwoBrokenMirrors i've watched at least four episodes and well, yeah... i think that was enough for me to conclude that it just doesn't mesh with my brain at all. that's a good description of it, yeah.
this is more a guilty hate/bitterness: I hate, hate, hate, hate that game of thrones became the show to catapult nerds and fantasy into mainstream. ugh. Like, you can't find a media thing I hate more. (okay, I hate Joss Whedon and his faux-feminism too but at least he's not that much in my face). I am fine with gritty realistic shows, but not when it's fantasy/scifi. So all the fanning of game of thrones has just left me with this huge "omg I fucking hate this show". like. I just fucking hate that it even exists. I hate that some of my faves decided to do this show, instead of some other one. does it make me a terrible person that I am gleefully looking forward to the shitfest that is going to be the trifecta of differing wants re: author/producets/hbo? because I am. um, maybe we need a guilty hate thread or something. as to guilty pleasure: after a too long time in tumblrland I became unable to consume anything without criticising it. it was awful.
Everybody here doesn't like gritty stuff or unhappy endings, fuuuuck that. I love it, I love that, ASOIAF is my favorite series, unhappy endings are the best, if you want to take away my lovely unhappy endings and character pain than FUCK YOU. (If you just like happy stuff and don't mind that unhappy stuff exists, the fuck you is not directed at you)
I have nothing against unhappy endings existing. I just personally find they make me more depressed. That's all.
I love Joe Abercrombie's books, and they're pretty much up there in the Fantasy Grimdark stakes, so yeah. Although it especially amuses me that a few times he's given (relatively) happy endings, against type, just to play it up. Can't get into Game of Thrones / ASOIAF, though.
I think this is reminding me of something I kinda already knew, which is that I deal really poorly with criticism in general (at least without a protective shell of anger). Like, especially of things I like, but seeing criticism of things I don't really care about or even things I dislike kinda makes me uncomfortable. And by the same token I generally avoid thinking about things I dislike. Not sure what to do with this, if anything.
I don't mind it existing, I just hate that it's the thing that made nerd stuff mainstream, and I hate the cult-like mentality and evangelising around it. As long as you accept that is also a thing I think we're fine in existing in our separate venn diagram spheres of not liking the show or the books. And by hate I do actually mean resent, it's just that I forget to use that word.
*gasps* yeah, ok, it totally is :D (But like 60% of my characters are slightly based off of Han Solo, oh man I wanted to be him as a kid) I have only recently managed to resolve my weird feelings of guilt for liking a) really anachronistic "historical" films like Knights Tale, Van Helsing, Brothers Grimm & the one about hansel & gretel, witch-hunters and b) almost everything vin diesel has ever done (oh god talk to me about riddick) I also feel vaguely guilty for not liking elementary more, because when it came out i was one of those BBC Sherlock fans, I watched the first Elementary episode, and I tore it to shreds. And now I'm fairly disenchanted with Moffat (he's the one who did sherlock & some dr who, right?), I wish I liked elementary more because I think it has a lot of interesting things...and I just can't get into it. I also periodically feel guilty that, as a child, I didn't watch any "normal" shows, and now I have to live through people listing kids shows that I don't give a shit about in some weird effort to either find common ground with me or find a show I've watched. Like, I'm sorry, but I didn't watch Phineas & Ferb when I was 10, I'm not going to suddenly love it now. Ditto with spongebob, any family sitcom, friends, how i met your mother, and most shows that 90s kids are supposed to have as part of our "common knowledge". I watched, literally, DBZ, 4 episodes of w.i.t.c.h, and the first and last episode of yu-gi-oh. Aside from that, I'm probably not going to get it. (My roommate keeps forcing me to watch phineas and ferb episodes because "it's hilarious" and i'll "love it". I'm pretty sure my personal critical period for "getting it" has passed.)
I also feel vaguely guilty for not being into 'real, worth-something, actual literature' more. Like I can read it but I get bored quickly it's kind of annoying and not very exciting. Which is weird because I'm studying a kind of literature studies so I should be into this kinda stuff right? But that's why my focus is heavily on Pop Culture, because I know myself and I know I can deliver better papers when I'm excited about the stuff I'm working on. Viva la Critical analyses of fantasy novels!!
If it helps, it's fine not to like Elementary or to not want to watch it. I love it, but it doesn't work for everyone and that's fine. :) They don't have to be either/or, with BBC Sherlock. Even though I personally also fulfil the stereotype as I don't like the bbc version much. XD
I feel guilty for not really reading books for pleasure anymore. I used to do it a lot as a kid, but as a kid I wasn't expected to read 200 pages a night for class the next day. Now I'm lucky if I can read a serious magazine (Texas Monthly) rather than just tabloids (my guilty pleasure, I will read anything with a Kardashian on the cover). I can also read fanfics, because those aren't "serious." Trying to read original fiction, though, is just. Eurgh. I can't even read Pride and Prejudice anymore. The joy is gone. Which leads to a lot of "but I thought you liked to read!" from people who knew me well as a kid, and yeah, but things change. I want to still like it, I've just lost the pleasure that lit "canon" brings me. My current bookshelf is ASOIAF that I haven't touched since college (refuse to watch the show, I'm already "spoiled" for it, I don't give a shit about anyone on the show, I just cannot give a fiddler's fuck and I don't care who knows it), tarot interpretation, Enron conspiracy theories, and John Grisham. I'll probably never read the Agatha Christie or J.R.R.T. or Sir Arthur Conan Doyle that I have on there right now. Probably not even Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. I already feel bad enough for "not reading" like so many of the "youth" do today. Please do not make me feel worse about it. (Not directed at this thread, directed at strangers who don't understand that I don't want to read for fun when I read ten hours a day for my job.)
wanders in very late to this thread. there are so many fanfic cliches that I'm guilty pleasure of. God, as much as I bitch about OOC behaviour normally, I'd do so many awful things for a schmoopy "enemies stuck together, develop feelings" fantasy AU of most of my ships. So many. Also, Eragon, but I think you guys already knew that, and Weird and Creepy Xeno Porn That Isn't Very Consensual.
The vast majority of my kinks would count. The themes of which mostly center around pain, fear, and control. My favorite parts of Caitlin Kiernan stories other than the character work is the guro or things that evoke the sort of ero-guro feel that I like. That is where my tastes lie.