KAGEROU

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Vast Derp, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. BPD anon

    BPD anon Here I sit, broken hearted

    Maybe I am really sheltered too, because I read it a few months ago and I was also just confused? Like I didn't understand any of it. For example:

    Horrible things happen after the soda can appears? I did not get that. I just saw it appear at random and do nothing and disappear, just like a bunch of other story elements, and I didn't understand/still don't. The whole comic is just one giant ???? to me. I don't get it.

    I'm reminded of when I was listening to the song Point Blank on Youtube because I liked the sound and I saw a comment like "If you understand the significance of the lyrics, this is really deep." AND I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. AND I REPLIED TO THAT COMMENT THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BUT I NEVER GOT A RESPONSE and years later I am still annoyed because apparently that song means something but I don't know what!
     
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  2. Elaienar

    Elaienar "sorta spooky"

    I'd forgotten about it, but the first panel of this page is why it's a safe bet to say the soda can is linked to horrible things.

    It's been so long since I read through Kagerou that all I remembered was flashback + blood + soda can + something bad happening to Heyoka, but to expand that: we haven't seen exactly what happened, so every time the soda can shows up it's a reminder that I have yet to learn what happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what followed. I don't even know if Heyoka's okay, or seriously injured, or dead. I'm looking forward to the reveal, so I get excited when I see it.

    I don't understand everything that happens in Kagerou myself, but I tend to assume that that's because some of it is groundwork for something in the future/a piece of an incomplete and metaphorical puzzle/etc.
     
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  3. The Frood Abides

    The Frood Abides Doesn't Know Where His Rug Is

    It's confusing as shit on the first read! At least it was to me.
    It was on the 2nd read that I figured out what Red was and where he'd come from; by the 3rd, I realized that Kano isn't so much "dissociative dude with a handful of childhood alters" as "powerful unaware psychic reluctantly sharing headspace with a bunch of pissed-off ghosts, some of whom are his own." Tonbo and Fuuka confused me until the 2nd read. I still don't quite get what's up with Tcaolin and (the Toymaker? Forget his name). Or why Orbkiller is in Kano's head when Red killed her long before they ever met.
    Part of the issue, I think, is that it's unfinished and been on hiatus for so long: a lot of stuff simply hasn't been revealed yet! But also, Kagerou is to fragmented/complicated identities what Homestuck is to time travel.
     
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  4. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    I figured it was a sorta, ghost haunting their killer, but he didn't know/care, they got pulled in along with him.
     
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  5. Hobo

    Hobo HEYYEYAAEYAAAEYAEYAA

    I feel like it's a pretty safe bet that Heyoka is dead, given all of Kid's references to it. Mentioned here, but iirc there are lots of other mentions throughout the comic about it. I think. It's been years since I've reread it '_, Is the 'Heyoka might not be dead' thing assuming that Kid doesn't know any better or something?
     
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  6. Aviari

    Aviari PartyWolf Is In The House Tonight

    Yeah I'm pretty sure they did: They followed RED, into Kano.

    Also, I have to wonder if @Vast Derp is looking over all this speculation and cackling
     
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  7. Elaienar

    Elaienar "sorta spooky"

    Mostly it's just "I haven't read the comic in ages and I sort of vaguely think there may have been references to Heyoka's death but I'm not sure and I'm also not sure that Kano et al thinking Heyoka is dead is solid proof that Heyoka is dead".
     
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  8. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    I'm still very, very curious what's in the other side of the the Eye of Ir. Is it all the spirits of the people wiped out when the gods stopped the plague? If that's the case, and the spell stopped them from possessing Kano, how did he get the echoes of the little girl who wanted tea?

    Does Nadia want Kano to die?

    If the Wilsh Tree is dead/comatose with the trees she used to stop the plague, how does she provide Starless with a weapon?

    Do the fox kits have another parent?

    Is it all a dream?
     
  9. The Frood Abides

    The Frood Abides Doesn't Know Where His Rug Is

    The discussion of Red on the sidebar and the plot discussion here reminded me. I was cheering internally when Dark started beating Red with the tire iron. But it seemed like Kid thought that was a terrible idea, and then everything in the Zones went to shit. I never understood why. I'd have thought extinguishing Red could only have been good for our protagonist's mental health. But of course he wasn't properly extinguished... Is it just that Dark's been getting steadily worse from the sheer effort of holding Red back, and this was him threatening to go over the edge?
     
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  10. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    Yeah, it'd make way more sense that way.
    I like to think that up until his death all anyone who could ghost would see if they looked at Red was a mass of screaming pissed off ghosts.
    Oh, @Vast Derp has to be laughing his ass off at us XD
    it seems to be a "if you kill him you end up more like him than is reccomended" type deal.
     
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  11. Aviari

    Aviari PartyWolf Is In The House Tonight

    Also Being Dead in Kano's head appears to not be an issue the way Being Dead is outside his head. Dead folks in there seem more powerful than living folks. Now Red's Double Dead.
     
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  12. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    I think Kid confirmed that Heyoka is dead, talking to Tonbo. I'm inclined to trust Kid's memory more than Kano's.
     
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  13. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    dead red: the deadering
     
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  14. Aviari

    Aviari PartyWolf Is In The House Tonight

    "Spoiler" has now been repeated so much it has ceased to register as a word.
     
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  15. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    :screaming: SPOOOOOIIIIIIILLLLLLEERRRRRRRRS
     
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  16. Aviari

    Aviari PartyWolf Is In The House Tonight

    New poll: BEST GOD/DESS COSTUME/OUTFIT/ENSEMBLE

    Nominee #1 Tcaolin's white dress w/ gold/black stripy sleeves/etc. Looks like terrifying sexy exotic butterfly and/or goldfish.
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    ETA: Example
    Stars and stones, @Vast Derp fucking redefines "Fashion Porn" and "Hair Porn"
     
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  17. kmoss

    kmoss Under Construction

    may jesus forgive me
     
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  18. Elaienar

    Elaienar "sorta spooky"

    Same, unfortunately. I'm inclined to trust Kid's perception of reality more than ... pretty much anyone else's in Kano's head. Uh, Orbkiller seems pretty level-headed?
     
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  19. Elaienar

    Elaienar "sorta spooky"

    I clicked on every one of those and I think you need an indulgence from the Pope for these kinds of shenanigans.
     
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  20. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    I enjoy Dee's clothes. GIANT SKIRTS TO HIDE SPIDER BUTT AND PRETTY VEILS
    you monster.
    yeah, orbkiller seems level headed if reasonably pissed.
     
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