meditations on reporting

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by seebs, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. kmoss

    kmoss Under Construction

    we should have like a thread in the howdy there forum titled "report this post" , and then people can automatically report it when they join, so they can see the process and not be as worried about doing it later, when they really need to

    I know that's why I tend to Not report things, because I'm afraid of Doing Things Wrong if I've never done them before, regardless of if there is even a right or wrong way to do them
     
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  2. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    I actually sorta like that.
     
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  3. Maya

    Maya 人間失格 • they/them

    Is it possible to add a drop down selection to the report dialogue as well as keeping the text input? If both can be had, you can also add a specific drop down menu for people who are still not sure if they should "report" the post or not. Some suggestions for that would be:
    • This post makes me uncomfortable (or similar, im not entirely sure how to word 'i'm not comfortable')
    • I do not want this post in my thread (for vent threads/ita/etc??)
    • This post contains material I think should be censored
    • This post is vague about me
    • This RP post should be in 18+
    • This RP post violates an rp boundary I have set up
    • I am worried about this person and would like a mod to check up on them
    So on and so forth, the drop down can contain any number of "reasons" for "reporting" to assure people that yes, you can report the thing and it's right there in the system's code to allow them to do so. For everything you can't put in the drop down, keeping the input field would be absolutely wonderful
     
  4. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    I think it might be better to have some suggestions for what can be reported in the newbie "report this" post, because I can see some of those going badly wrong.
     
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  5. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    I don't think the drop-down is within our technology -- the software doesn't really have any hooks for adding report types.

    And of course, my meta-concern remains, the more I list things people can report, the more likely they are to not report something that's not on the list.
     
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  6. Maya

    Maya 人間失格 • they/them

  7. Technicality

    Technicality All's fair in love and shitposting

    If it's possible to change the "report" dialogue, then putting that stuff into the actual window might be helpful.
     
  8. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Because i could see "I don´t want this post in my thread" for example to get really uncomfortable in for exampe arguments that aren´t misplaced in personal vent threads or ITA threads. And I knwo the mods arenßt required to act on reports but it´s still just kinda :/
     
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  9. Pheelog

    Pheelog The Phee-Phee Police

    As you stated, mods aren't required to act on reports, plus from my understanding there's no notification given if it's your post that's been reported unless there's been action taken against it. Thus, it opens up a chance for further dialog in 'why exactly do you not want this post here', which could have several reasons outside of personal threads. For instance, in a TCHGB thread that the original party/parties would rather keep between them and reduce comments from the peanut gallery, but would rather it be public so the posts are on record. Or, if it's an argument in an inappropriate area, then moving it to TCHGB might be the best course of action with a post after stating it was moved and why.

    Or, if it's just someone being petty, the mods do nothing and mark the report as resolved, and again, you'd never know the difference.

    So if there is a way to offer additional text to 'Report Reason', I'd be up for that because sometimes you can't articulate what the issue is at first and seeing it right beside you can be extremely helpful.
     
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  10. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    well, from seebs post that just got out of modcue up top, it´s not possible anyway so the point is moot.
     
  11. Pheelog

    Pheelog The Phee-Phee Police

    Drop down is not within the software's capability. Adding additional text has not been stated yet.
     
  12. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    i think it would be more helpful/useful overall to perhaps in the report this posts post stress thatit doesn´t have to be a rulebreak to be reported.
    Example reasons can still be put in that posts, at greater lenghts and more detail.
     
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  13. Maya

    Maya 人間失格 • they/them

    Software limitations aside, there is no reason potential reasons for reporting a post can't both be in a pinned post and the dialogue of the actual report window. It's better to have the information overly visible than not.

    If drop down isn't possible, then tooltips! Most software allows you to put slightly greyed example text into input boxes. If reasons within that example would made it too long winded, then a simple push to the thread would work just as well, i.e. "please see the 'report this post' thread in that's so meta for more information".

    This is about making reporting posts on a forum with no rules to break accessible to the people who can't just hit the report button and articulate their reasoning behind doing so without some form of help and that help can't just be being told it's alright to report for any reason, because a forum full of mentally ill abuse survivors isn't going to believe that 100%
     
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  14. Pheelog

    Pheelog The Phee-Phee Police

    At the very least then, if there is a way to add in text, a link to said thread once it's created because, again, not everyone can articulate why they're calling for a mod's attention to a post immediately and that inability can put off people from hitting that button in the first place.

    I should know. I'm one of them.
     
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  15. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Sadly, I don't know of a way, and that's the kind of thing that's really hard to add to the software. But we can maybe make some more sample material. And "honestly I don't know this just bugs me help" is fine. We have gotten reports like that, and that's okay! Sometimes we can figure out a thing that might likely be a problem for someone.

    So I think the big thing I want to stress is that a sort of confused report of "i'm not sure if this is okay or not but i feel bad??!" is fine. We may not be able to fix it, but it gives us something to start with, and maybe someone else will articulate a thing, or maybe three people will all flail a bit and then we'll see all three reports and it'll be obvious.

    to clarify: it's not just that it's not a linkable thread, it's not even an Actual Thread the way normal discussion threads are. this differs from vBulletin, where reports just create threads. (And then you have to merge the threads about a given post and it's horrible.)
     
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  16. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    I´d be happier with the link option, personally because it lets stuff be explained in detail.
    btw maya by censoring do you mean spoilering?
     
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  17. Maya

    Maya 人間失格 • they/them

    yes. did i accidentally say censor?
     
  18. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    yep, you did.
     
  19. Maya

    Maya 人間失格 • they/them

    [thumbs up emoji]
     
  20. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Yup. It´s a part of what made me bristle tbh. Not all of it, I stand by prefering a link to a post where there´s room to write things out nice and clearly, but some.
     
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