No Fighting In The Tumblr Room - Tumblr.txt 4th Thread Derail

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Snitchanon, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    Yo, can we agree to please stop ferrying things that, regardless of how they're intended, are extremely manipulative suicide threats designed at achieving an outcome of something the person wants?

    @camelcaseCognomen You don't have to play the messenger here, and it's not healthy or reasonable for you to be doing so. It is 100% unreasonable to attempt to put the life of another human being in the hands of group action in this manner. Pass a hotline number and disengage if you haven't already.

    Say a new thread is made but Alix is not the op, something she's clearly severely distressed about potentially happening. If Alix harmed herself as a result, the splash damage could hit every person who posted in the new thread. It would also not be their fault that she harmed herself.

    Say a new thread is made where Alix is the op, but engagement is reduced because people don't want to participate in a thread achieved via suicide threats, or just because they're uncomfortable with other things, and Alix feels bad and harms herself. Still not anyone else's fault.

    Also Alix, I know you're upset but it's an extremely bad precedent to set for your mental health to try and obtain the result you want here in a suicidal state. It isn't healthy to capitulate too, for anyone involved.
    • Agree x 14
  2. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    The actual reason why I made the thread:
    1. You can't see threads an ignored person started.
    2. This thing, with Alix's thread passed over in favour of one everyone can see? It'd just happen again, but more confused. And that'd be upsetting, too, to have someone else's thread become The de facto One for no obvious reason.
    3. I (mistakenly, it seems) thought that beating people to the punch would prevent squabbling.
    4. Never have I been so wrong.
    • Witnessed x 32
    • Informative x 7
    • Agree x 1
    • Winner x 1
  3. NevermorePoe

    NevermorePoe Nevermore

    Thank you for the explanation.
    • Agree x 4
  4. so, alix has one thing she's asked me to pass on:
    • Witnessed x 3
    • Like x 1
    • Informative x 1
  5. versi2

    versi2 ???????

    Atone by giving up chance to make next thread?
    • Agree x 1
  6. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    I've locked the old Tumblr thread, and I think I need another pair of mod eyes before I think we'll be able to come to any conclusions on this.
    In the meantime, I think I'll sweep up the pseudo-sock suicide threats and work on detangling things.

    Reminder: Saying you're 'not being manipulative' while also saying that you're feeling suicidal about not getting a thing is kinda a contradiction in terms, even if you really feel differently.
    If you want to have this argument with me, Alix, have it in the void, or in TCHGB if you want it to be more public.
    • Agree x 7
    • Like x 1
  7. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    It's okay, you just need to take some time and rebalance yourself. Disengage from this for a while. You don't have to mask that you are hurt, but
    "if i don't get x, y will happen" is a bad pattern. If I can suggest an alternative, that you could maybe keep as a base script and edit to see fit, it'd be something like:

    "So I was [in this case looking forward to starting a new thread] and feel panicky and very upset about [the change in tradition and routine]. Could we talk about this so that there is a precedent for the next time this situation comes up?"
    • Agree x 5
  8. Gyro Zeppeli

    Gyro Zeppeli Pseudo Anti Cult Leader

    While we're at it can we put a fucking embargo on the postmod circumvention
    • Agree x 8
  9. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    This is exactly why I was scared. You (as in mods) always interpret things in the worst possible light, as a manipulative attempt to get whatever I want and hurt as many people in the process, possibly while twirling my imaginary mustache. I don't know how to show you I actually care.
  10. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    your past few posts much more eloquently say my same thoughts on the matter. thank you.
    • Like x 2
  12. versi2

    versi2 ???????

    Snitch is online now and so palindromordnilap can communicate with them directly, why are you posting this?
    • Agree x 4
  13. Gyro Zeppeli

    Gyro Zeppeli Pseudo Anti Cult Leader

    • Winner x 1
  14. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Can we stop circumventing a moderator system thing?
    • Agree x 3
  15. evilas

    evilas Sure, I'll put a custom title here

    I agree with that. Camelcase, please stop. I don't think it's healthy for you or Alix or anyone here for you to do this.
    • Agree x 2
  16. this sounds fair to me, frankly. i don't trust the post moderation system not to be abused in general, and if there's something actually awful that she sends me (which hasn't happened so far), i obviously wouldn't post it. i just apply my own standards, just like mods do.
  17. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    1. I am not accusing you of bad intent, I am accusing you of bad action.
    2. It doesn't matter what your intent is, "please let me have a new thread, I'm suicidal" is manipulative, even if you double-promise you're not being so.
    3. Stop Trying To Bypass Postmod.
    • Agree x 16
  18. Gyro Zeppeli

    Gyro Zeppeli Pseudo Anti Cult Leader

    Fucking stop it.
    • Agree x 1
  19. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    You stop that, too.
    >I wouldn't post something awful
    >Posts suicide threats.
    • Agree x 17
  20. versi2

    versi2 ???????

    How did you know about the post before it was approved? Is palindrom posting it AND pming it to you?
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