NSFW RP: consent, minors, and other boundaries

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by seebs, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Petra

    Petra space case

    Nobody said that. We said it makes us anxious to have this brought up as a sweeping problem with no solid examples or points at which people were willing to say it happened. That's not a productive policy conversation!
     
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  2. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    So I think one of the problems we have is: We have general statements of "I'm uncomfortable" or "I think these things are okay".

    But I don't have a lot of specific examples of a thing someone is uncomfortable with, or a thing someone thinks is okay but is worried would be taken away if there were a change in policy.

    And I get that people don't want to necessarily have those specific arguments over. But if people could report, or link-to in Caring Void, some specific examples, it'd be easier for us to make more specific progress.
     
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  3. Petra

    Petra space case

    None of that is HAPPENING. You don't have the context and just fuck off if you're just going to jump in without actually knowing what's actually going on! Goddamn!
     
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  4. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

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  5. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    you're very welcome! :)
     
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  6. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Keltka, sorry for not specifying! My bad.

    [Edit] beaten like a drum.
     
  7. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    how does 'this should be the policy going forward' say that this is currently happening or has? two different issues, and people seem to be treating one with as much pushback as the other because they're being conflated.
     
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  8. Petra

    Petra space case

    Okay. I get that now. You're right, I don't think 'I'm uncomfortable with this discussion' is a reason not to have the discussion, although it might be a reason for someone to tap out.
     
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  9. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    Just to be clear, is this a problem of narrative portrayal, the content existing at all/existing in spaces not vehemently marked 18+, or it not being tagged sufficiently?
     
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  10. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    So you probably mean me with that that that is such a fucking misrepresantation of what i was saying.

    I do not have problems with people wanting more or better safety measures. I Do have ap roblem with people suddenly deciding a fade to black is the same as a writrten out sex scene, because that sort of broading of what is sexual yes, upsets me.
     
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  11. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    yes, that's it. feeling anxious or uncomfortable is legitimate, it just needs to be a part of actual safety discussion as little as possible and processed/given support for elsewhere.

    also, sorry if my replies are behind, i'm on mobile and this thread goes fast.
     
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  12. Petra

    Petra space case

    I think it's the implication that is has been happening. Why does it have to be 'the policy going forward' when it's already been the policy so far? The ONLY incident I can think of that's anywhere like what's been implied is Wendy and Maxim, and Wendy is 16, they're co-workers, and I don't even think there's been anything implying they're having sex? And there's only one minor (who's 17) player in the WT rp anyway, and if that's a hard line then I guess we'll have to put his rping on pause until his next birthday.
     
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  13. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    seems pretty textual to me.
     
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  14. Petra

    Petra space case

    There has also been a few uncomfortable times in the spr... that caused people to call a pause, have a discussion ooc, and hash out stuff going forward that's basically what has already been suggested in this thread. Except now I guess fade-to-blacks or whatever are not okay now? I don't even really get the logic of the objections and it's bugging me.
     
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  15. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    Wrench had a thing with one of the Cronuses briefly. It was FTB because SPR requires FTB (as does WT for that matter, though we have an 18+ thread that nobody has yet felt the need to make use of) But both the characters are adults and if anyone thinks that Cronus is a normal person and everything he does is portrayed as absolutely fabulous behaviour I don't know how to help that person.
     
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  16. Petra

    Petra space case

    Yeah and I think that was some of the stuff that caused people to pull back anyway.
     
  17. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    Oh, this reminds me: while we're discussing policy wrt potential sexual activity in areas where minors are present, can we have a rule against sexual (i.e., pornography and/or images of genitals) as icons if the characters are going to be playing in PG-13 areas?
     
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  18. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    The characters don't matter, only the irl players. At least, that's my opinion.
     
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  19. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    the thing is that i think a big part of the clash here is people trying to discuss what is and is not okay going forward, because people are having different definitions? honestly i think 'what we all agree or don't agree to do going forward' and 'whether this has happened before' are two different subjects that really need separate threads to get any resolution for either.
     
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  20. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    That's... An interesting point. I didn't know that might be a thing. Thank you.
     
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