r/fatlogic derail

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by Athol Magarac, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. UnknownQuantity

    UnknownQuantity Who the fuck is this

    There's a huge difference between education and making resources available and some random shmuck going "you're unhealthy and not doing anything about it, which makes you a bad influence (you fatty fat fat ass)"

    Guess which side of the line you're on.
     
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  2. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    No, I agree that proper education is a good thing. However, you're not going to get that from random people on the internet, which is what we've all been saying.
    However, based on what you've been saying, and the attitude that we can read from those words, you've shown again and again that your education wasn't actually proper, which kind of proves our point.

    I mean, we're also not asking you to take what were saying completely on faith. We're asking you to think critically about what you've been taught and to speak to licensed dieticians. And maybe take some of our thoughts into account. We have many people with actual experiences, as well as graduate students or professionals weight in, so I think our points are worth thinking about.

    For example, I've only learned from this thread that "dietician" and "nutritionist" is not necessarily synonymous, so now I have something to look up for myself.

    Finally, I don't believe you've said that you would go up to fat people on the street, so I'm not trying to change your mind about that.

    Forums like fatlogic do most of their damage via splash damage - which means that while the person the harm is directed toward (here the person that is being mocked) might not get hurt (here because they can't see it), other people who read it can get hurt, or spread hurtful points, and that's why most of the people arguing with you think it's a bad idea.
     
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  3. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    oh, get off your high horse. random people on the internet isn’t “proper education,” as you’ve been told repeatedly.

    the diet industry is a powerful interest group btw. diet culture exists as a result of them, so they can profit from it. it’s nothing new.
     
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  4. TheMockingCrows

    TheMockingCrows Resident Bisexual Lich

    ((Bruh just randomly approaching people on the street about Anything is a potential way to get punched, I am just warning.))
     
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  5. rigel

    rigel in a line of late afternoon sun

    oh my god just stop. please just fucking stop and listen to what people are actually saying to you, stop making up strawmen, stop escalating it, stop bringing up random people as a means of demeaning their dietary habits, it ISNT YOUR BUSINESS.

    okay how about this: Would YOU like someone watching everything you eat like a fucking hawk and calling you a hamplanet every time your body needs sustenance?

    would you like random strangers who are NOT medical professionals trying to give you dietary advice online unsolicited?

    would you like your picture plastered all over the fucking internet because your body mass exists in a way a bunch of freaks online find repulsive?

    would you like people to take videos of your body and post them online for others to laugh at?

    would you LIKE people treating you as less than human over your weight?

    we get it okay? fat people FUCKING GET IT. we dont need ANOTHER fucking idiot preaching to us on the street about our health as if they have any fucking clue what theyre atlking about
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
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  6. rigel

    rigel in a line of late afternoon sun

    if you honestly and truly take it upon yourself to go preaching r/fatlogic trash to fat people on the street because you think its your fucking duty to tell others how to live, youre a real fucking piece of work.
     
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  7. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    uhhhh

    excuse me?
     
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  8. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    No but really what the fuck does this even mean? Are you really just going up to random fat people to tell them shit you read on a fatshaming reddit? Because if so you're reaching 'guy standing on the street with an I HATE FAGS sign while screeching about the evil of homo sex' levels of bad. That is a level of bad no one wants to reach. Jesus fucking christ.
     
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  9. Maya

    Maya smug_anime_girl.jpg

    you go ahead and do that. just don't come crying to kintsugi when you get a fucking black eye.
     
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  10. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    i am just

    jesus

    JESUS
     
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  11. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Guys, I don't think Greallan is saying that she DOES go up to fat people on the street. I think that part was sarcastic like the rest of the post was.
     
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  12. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    If it is sarcasm she really needs to learn to fucking not. Why in the fuck do we have any reason to trust her? Like. At all.
     
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  13. lex

    lex + 0.2% luck

    i mean, of course she will, for a black eye or for a reasonable telling to

    what would you call her coming here from the ppc? asspat seeking all the way down lol
     
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  14. witchknights

    witchknights Bold Enchanter Defends The Fearful

    Can attest; I went from 115 kg to 97 just by Stopping Being In A Stressful Situation That Stressed Me Out All The Time and that was even before giving up on sodas and starting dieting.

    Also alcohol is possibly worse than pretty much all hyperprocessed foods loaded with sugar and fat and scary chemicals, juuust sayin
     
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  15. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    "Education" about health issues is most certainly a bad thing when it's coming from someone WHO IS NOT THE SUBJECT'S DOCTOR.
     
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  16. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    I've never before gotten punched by just walking down the sidewalk and being so intent on finding shinies that I don't notice anyone. Are you saying that I'm lucky that I haven't been wounded yet for displaying such behavior?
     
  17. TheMockingCrows

    TheMockingCrows Resident Bisexual Lich

    ?????????
     
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  18. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    You know, you could have just said "I didn't mean that." "that post was facisous/sarcastic"

    Instead, you decide to be rude and unclear, but you don't understand why people get angry at you a lot.

    Advice time -
    Most of the time, I can read sarcasm over text - there are linguistic markers that don't have to do with tone in sarcasm - and I think most people who have been communicating online can too, autistic or not (it's about recognizing patterns and we're good at that when not otherwise stressed!). However, if it's going to be unclear, or read in bad faith, people also use a sarcasm marker of some kind.

    [/s] or [/sarcasm] are the most common and clear ones.

    ~*Surrounding your words in tildes and asterisks can also convey sarcasm, but there's more nuance involved, so I wouldn't really recommend it for you*~
    Edit: The above sentence is sincere, despite the markers, that's just so one can see how they're used.
     
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2018
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  19. UnknownQuantity

    UnknownQuantity Who the fuck is this

    See this

    is so removed from the context of this

    that unless you're expecting us to be psychic it's literally impossible to tell you meant the former and not the latter.
     
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  20. UnknownQuantity

    UnknownQuantity Who the fuck is this

    And that's assuming good faith for the sake of argument, and you didn't pull an intentional bait-and-switch so you could play innocent.

    Either way: fucking don't.
     
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