Reporting the mods

I'm not inclined to go into details on what are or aren't involved for technical countermeasures. I am not especially expecting recurrence right away, anyway.

 

Okay, I just restarted my computer like five times trying to fix/update/fix my tablet drivers, so by god am I going to post this stupid thing I drew (traced)

Spoiler

 

It was an interesting test case, but ultimately, there's no way to help her when she won't read things and can't remember things she did read.

What basically sold me was that, after all that drama with her pushing Kathy to read through the Wiggler to see all the abuse, she just... ignored it. Nothing that happened mattered, the point is that the mods were abusing her and needed to be called out for it, etcetera., and just... There's nothing we can do if someone won't interact with us. And you might say "but she interacted!", but she didn't interact with us, she interacted with whatever she was making up that she could beat in a fight. So instead of processing information and possibly adapting to it, she just got madder and madder and hurt herself doing so, blaming everyone else for this.

I'm not about to ban people just for being assholes, but I will ban spambots, and I will ban a wandering haze of drunken abuse that can't actually respond to the things people said unless they fit a preconceived narrative. There has to be some kind of possibility of communication happening for it to make any sense to continue.

 

Also, I just want to state for the record: It is 100% okay to try to recommend that people seek help, here or elsewhere, if you think they need help. It didn't work out well this time, but that sometimes happens. You don't always have the time/resources/skill to ferret out whether a person reporting abuse is, in fact, really-the-victim or possibly part of the problem. And saying "hey, these people have been helpful to at least some people, maybe they could help you" is a reasonable thing. It's a kind thing. It was reasonable given the information available, it was a compassionate response, it is a good example of how you should react when you think someone is being abused. Not necessarily "send them here", but "try to find a resource that might help them".

Sometimes when you do this, it will work out really badly. Maybe it's just a bad fit. Maybe the person complaining about being abused is a serial abuser who's just DARVOing at the time. But for fuck's sake, do not shame people for trying to help. If everyone who complained about being abused got subjected to rigorous background checks before anyone helped them, they'd fucking die.

You can make the best possible call given the information you have, and it can be a complete clusterfuck because you didn't know something. That happens sometimes. It's not a reason not to try.

 

as a spectator who was as uninvolved as i could manage to be: she was basically trump without money, and i'm very impressed how much effort y'all put into trying to get her to engage with the world outside her comforting narcissistic pity cave.

also i'm giggling a little at the thought of her flouncing off to some other forum to explain to THEM how she's still going to get mexico to pay for the wall.

 

it's true that our seebs is a patient seebs. but there are places where her signature dish of bigotry-and-self-pity casserole is similar enough to the local cuisine that she wouldn't cause much of a stir. she'll fetch up there eventually.

 

i don't think so. even very similar narcissists don't get along, because they can never agree on which person specifically is supposed to be the hero.

 

so if it wasn't obvious, wish's behavior has continued to escalate, they've gone on postmod, and they've been posting a ton of shit like "hitler did nothing wrong" and lots of racist stuff, including "ban me fags i dare you" and we're not finding this fun, and their dumbass rules-lawyering about how there's no "rules" so they should be allowed to do every individual shitty thing to people until we've told them that exactly that specific shitty thing is also gonna get wiggled is... like, this is like watching cops plead qualified immunity. "there wasn't a circuit court ruling in this specific circuit saying that it was a violation of rights to shoot someone's dog for lulz, therefore, you can't have expected me to know that". actually you know what, we can, and we do.

anyway, this all simplified significantly because one of the angry posts was a request for a ban. you know what? sure. granting the ban by request. a duration wasn't specified so i'm calling it a week.