Reporting the mods

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Athol Magarac, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    I'm not inclined to go into details on what are or aren't involved for technical countermeasures. I am not especially expecting recurrence right away, anyway.
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  2. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah, that's fair. I was just wondering in light of the sockpuppet history.
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  3. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    I was incredibly afraid when i woke up and saw 35 notifications and i was so angry before i got to page 115

    thanks, catching up I was feeling incredibly fucking gaslit again and I appreciate the pointing out that actually no I did do that work rather than hallucinating it
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  4. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Okay, I just restarted my computer like five times trying to fix/update/fix my tablet drivers, so by god am I going to post this stupid thing I drew (traced)

    grinch spock 1.png grinch spock 2.png
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  5. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Not sure if this okay to ask here but why did they even come to this forum to start with?
  6. 3strim

    3strim Professional Accidental Rater

    Alix invited her
    and then spammed the PPC with gross shock porn when her ban was finalized there,
    strange how that skipped the accountability thread.
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  7. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    Well. She does identify as a mentally ill neurodiverse abuse victim and she has some nerdy interests. If it weren't for her incessantly and staggeringly bad behavior she actually would have been a good fit.
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  8. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    i believe that part actually is in there now, it's just not in the op.
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  9. 3strim

    3strim Professional Accidental Rater

    So it has been, snark redacted and apologies for the misinformation.
  10. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    I actually invited her here a few days after doing that. I thought Kintsugi was a good fit for her and it could help her get out of her obsession with the PPC and eventually get better, but I kinda screwed up with that since she immediately started talking about it and reproducing the same drama here.
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  11. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    It was an interesting test case, but ultimately, there's no way to help her when she won't read things and can't remember things she did read.

    What basically sold me was that, after all that drama with her pushing Kathy to read through the Wiggler to see all the abuse, she just... ignored it. Nothing that happened mattered, the point is that the mods were abusing her and needed to be called out for it, etcetera., and just... There's nothing we can do if someone won't interact with us. And you might say "but she interacted!", but she didn't interact with us, she interacted with whatever she was making up that she could beat in a fight. So instead of processing information and possibly adapting to it, she just got madder and madder and hurt herself doing so, blaming everyone else for this.

    I'm not about to ban people just for being assholes, but I will ban spambots, and I will ban a wandering haze of drunken abuse that can't actually respond to the things people said unless they fit a preconceived narrative. There has to be some kind of possibility of communication happening for it to make any sense to continue.
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  12. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Also, I just want to state for the record: It is 100% okay to try to recommend that people seek help, here or elsewhere, if you think they need help. It didn't work out well this time, but that sometimes happens. You don't always have the time/resources/skill to ferret out whether a person reporting abuse is, in fact, really-the-victim or possibly part of the problem. And saying "hey, these people have been helpful to at least some people, maybe they could help you" is a reasonable thing. It's a kind thing. It was reasonable given the information available, it was a compassionate response, it is a good example of how you should react when you think someone is being abused. Not necessarily "send them here", but "try to find a resource that might help them".

    Sometimes when you do this, it will work out really badly. Maybe it's just a bad fit. Maybe the person complaining about being abused is a serial abuser who's just DARVOing at the time. But for fuck's sake, do not shame people for trying to help. If everyone who complained about being abused got subjected to rigorous background checks before anyone helped them, they'd fucking die.

    You can make the best possible call given the information you have, and it can be a complete clusterfuck because you didn't know something. That happens sometimes. It's not a reason not to try.
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  13. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    as a spectator who was as uninvolved as i could manage to be: she was basically trump without money, and i'm very impressed how much effort y'all put into trying to get her to engage with the world outside her comforting narcissistic pity cave.

    also i'm giggling a little at the thought of her flouncing off to some other forum to explain to THEM how she's still going to get mexico to pay for the wall.
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  14. Wretched and Vile

    Wretched and Vile A very bad person

    Yeah im really thinking, hm what she gonna do now? Cause for sure all her hassling on this forum has caused her distress and she will have a lot to say similar to ppc stuff
    Like I know she hangs out in subreddits but idk if she has another forum to hang out in?

    I'm just curious I guess

    Her view is p twisted and im supposing other places are less patient than here
  15. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    it's true that our seebs is a patient seebs. but there are places where her signature dish of bigotry-and-self-pity casserole is similar enough to the local cuisine that she wouldn't cause much of a stir. she'll fetch up there eventually.
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  16. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    i don't think so. even very similar narcissists don't get along, because they can never agree on which person specifically is supposed to be the hero.
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  17. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Seconding all this. I had Athol on ignore from pretty much day one and actively stayed out of everything—I actually still need to backread this thread, I deliberately Did Not Engage at the time for my own sanity—but literally everything I’ve seen is just

    (And she definitely does remind one of Drumpf, doesn’t she? At least from what relatively little I’ve seen.)

    Anyway, thanks Seebs! Now I can engage with the SU thread again without missing chunks of the conversation out of my desire to avoid an asshole...
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  18. wish

    wish 2meirl42meirl4meirl

    Negative reaction
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