Reporting the mods

Good gods, you're really not doing yourself any favors here, Athol. Particularly with refusing to understand that when you talk about/with someone, you don't get to make the rules of engagement.

Again: When you talk about/with someone, you don't get to make the rules of engagement.

You don't get to throw down the gauntlet, proverbially speaking, with someone, and then walk away without consequence. Or, as the case may be, tell them to walk away and expect there to be no consequences.

Unfortunately, considering how many times and different ways people have tried to explain this, I think you either need to just drop it entirely, or back off, and cool it. You're digging yourself way deeper than you need to by picking this particular hill to die on.

 

Personally I use it as "A statement/question said for the purpose of a rhetorical gotcha/for the purpose of trapping someone in explaining something perpetually while you feign ignorance/something said for the purpose of getting a jumping off point for more hurtful rhetoric"
This may not be what you intended to do, hence why i said it sounded like a bad faith statement.
The problem remains that you are either shockingly ignorant on the topic of anti-semitism or purposefully hurtful and for both of these you will continue to get blowback until you apologize for saying hurtful things, try your best to stop saying them and start. listening.

 

Better yet.

Spoiler: reaction image

EDIT: This was in response to Spock, in case it wasn't clear.

 

Yeah, I wasn't touching on why they were stuck in the leftover job that no one else would or could do.

If I'm anti-anything, it might be that I'm anti-Christian or anti-Catholic in a very mild way. I'm all like "yeah, go ahead and hate on how chain-restaurant decided not to decorate for Christmas. See how it feels to be everyone else that has a most important holiday that stores don't decorate for."

 

I'd like to add, in case that isn't clear, either-- not only help no one here can provide, but no one is obligated to, and screaming about how mean and not understanding people are being is, in and of itself, disingenuous at best.

Please, go to rehab. Get help. Your life will be a less miserable spiral, one only you have any real power to crawl out of. It will be worth the effort not to live like this, friend.

 

It did not. I said that it's what we were taught.

I did read that the Catholic church put out a statement that it doesn't matter anyway because you shouldn't be mean to someone just because their ancestors did something.

 

That's well and good, but you're very stubbornly failing to acknowledge the real issue people are taking with you here. I'm beginning to think that's very par for the corse.

 

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You know, you not touching on something that you are aware is kind of horrible while calling the result 'wonderful' does not actually make you calling something borne out of anti-semitism 'wonderful' any better, right?
Also I genuinely do not give a single flying fuck about your opinion of christianity, or catholic christians. That's not the topic at hand.

 

Spock will shut up the moment you stop lying about her and her interactions with you. This has been a repeated statement by her. Secondly you don't get to claim that someone's triggering you and then continue talking about them. That's not how that works, and nobody is obligated to be your punching bag like that. Additionally, no it's not on spock to make her already very gentle statements even more gentle. If there's no way to criticize you that you don't read as an attack, that doesn't meant that people have to stop telling you when you fuck up. It means that YOU have to learn how to better deal with being told that you fuck up.

Past history is important. Your words do not exist in a vacuum, they exist in the context of your past, often extremely hurtful behaviour. That means that things that might be 'eh' on someone else are much more suspicious on you, because you keep following 'eh' things up with outright harmful ones and then try to argue that they're not really harmful.

This is where the 'bad faith' comes in. You keep taking things that people have OUTRIGHT told you are harmful and try to spin them as if they're not harmful and believing them is actually not a bad thing. Then you pose questions in such an incredibly leading way that it's impossible to argue with you. You've posed an incredibly amount of bad faith questions in this very thread, and people have called you out on them repeatedly. Go back and read them over.

Also, re: the other few posts that just popped up above mine: I suggest that you stop talking about religion period. You do quite obviously lack the understanding of the historical and cultural contexts, and considering that catholics are a minority in the US and that your familiarity with the katechism is passing at best, you should just shut up about it wholesale. Put the entire topic of 'religion' in a basket in the back of your head and don't try to touch it until you're sober.

 

Good job with the spoiler so that I could brace myself, and you picked one that has a pretty clear meaning. Refer to my explanation, but I'm fine with ones that don't have a lot of subtext.

Did I manage to use the exact same one as Rigel? I remember a "Get a load of this guy" where Rigel used this guy that I can't pinpoint where I know him from, but the character's an asshole. I used Sheldon Cooper, who is just an undiagnosed(untreated) autie.

And it's "cat science" TYVM.

 

This is an astoundingly bad faith question. So much so that, yes, I do have to wonder for a few moments if you're just trying to troll. Because holy shit, did you seriously just say that.

This is something on the level of "Wikipedia would have gotten you more information on why this was not 'wonderful' for the Jews involved". In fact, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury

I'm incredibly offended that you would even try to argue that shit, and I'm not discussing the topic further until you prove that you're actually capable of listening to what people say and taking criticism and changing your behaviour without needing to be dragged kicking and screaming into reforming.
In fact, seconding Owlet: do not talk about religion at all until you've managed to get sober and stay that way.

 

Thirding the don't touch religion talk until sober. It's also coming across as an attempt at obfuscation, or to be more charitable, unintentional deflection.

 

Spock: Forcibly ejected from Kintsugi.