ROSES EVERYWHERE (Revolutionary Girl Utena)

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Hart, Jun 28, 2015.

  1. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    this poor, dumb, child
     
  2. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    i've noticed that this black rose arc has a pretty clear additional theme that the first lacks

    all the black rose duelists thus far seem to be dealing with various forms of inadequacy

    i'm a bit low on spoons rn, but i think this might have something to do with self ideals or something, i guess?

    i'll hold this thought, for now
     
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  3. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    this anime seems to have a thing for child grooming :/
     
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  4. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    i think that girl actually likes tsuwabuki
     
  5. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    nevermind, there goes that out the window

    you poor, incredibly dumb, child
     
  6. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    also, i am just now noticing that the butterfly in the mikage seminar confessional booth regresses with the occupant's mental state

    nice touch
     
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  7. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    do not blush at the child
     
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  8. Rongeur

    Rongeur ~Heartless Bitch Extraordinaire~

    Personally I kinda like the fact that it's keeping the thread alive and bumped, but Alch is the op, so I guess he gets the biggest say in it. @alchemicalheart do you think one post per episode would be okay?
     
  9. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    I like the liveblog, personally
     
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  10. Petra

    Petra space case

    Yeah, I like it too.

    Nanami is my favorite character and her filler eps are actually not really filler imo, they're essential parts of her character arc but wrapped in additional layers of silly surrealism so that they're not taken seriously at first. Much like Nanami herself!
     
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  11. Petra

    Petra space case

    Like, I don't think Nanami is literally turning into a cow or anything, but...

    Okay, given what you know about the kitten, consider the implications of the fact that every animal Nanami is shown interacting with since then hates her on sight, and that no matter where she goes, dangerous animals will find her and hurt her. What could that symbolize?

    There's more I can go into, but I think it's best analysed when you've finished all the episodes and thus know Nanami's full character arc. :)

    Also, there's something about Touga that's explained in the movie, but was confirmed by the writers to also apply to his anime counterpart. I think it's fairly important for understanding some actions he takes, but it's pretty squicky.

    Touga was groomed and molested by his father.
    Which, given that the Kiryuu siblings were adopted, and Touga was old enough to remember this but Nanami wasn't, it's pretty heavily implied that they were adopted by their adoptive father specifically so Touga could be molested, and their wealth and social class is bought with his childhood in that manner.
     
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  12. Petra

    Petra space case

    I also think that plays heavily into Nanami's attention-grabbing, tbh. Touga was adopted and molested and probably adopted to be molested, and Nanami was just the extra kid the Kiryuus had to take in to get Touga. Even though Nanami is clearly clueless about what happened, she's not stupid, and I think she picked up on their parents, or at least their father, paying more attention to Touga than to her, without knowing the full implications of that. If Touga was the only one who paid genuine attention to her as a child, it seems reasonable that she's fixated on him now and engages in self-destructive, toxic behavior to get attention from others.
     
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  13. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    i'll definitely keep all the non-spoiler stuff in mind, but
    this got me really thinking, and is actually blowing my mind now a little

    anthy

    she's not actually taking all of the abuse she receives sitting down, is she?

    the cow bell, the curry, and the animals in her dorm room

    that was all her

    so what if the rest is all her, too

    besides dios, who might be an illusion for all i know, and the black rose groom, who is basically a genderbent version of her, she's the only character i've seen that seems to actually be capable of magic

    so what if all this is anthy's revenge

    in retrospect, it would make a lot of sense for her to be extremely petty and vindicative
     
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  14. Petra

    Petra space case

    This is great because the thing I was deliberately hinting at was a lot more general, but I also like that you can spool all that out, even if I'm not going to confirm or deny anything.
     
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  15. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

    i'm gonna try a different format of liveblogging next episode to try to make @alchemicalheart more comf
     
  16. Ipuntya

    Ipuntya return of eggplant

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    heck yeah wakaba is getting an episode i love her

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    ...they wouldn't

    would they?

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    oh my god they are actually doing this

    please tell me it isn't her

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    YES, WAKABA IS OKAY SORTA

    wait, but then does that mean

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    oh.

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    OH.

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    oh?

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    ...

    d'oh.
     
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  17. Petra

    Petra space case

    The reason the Red Car Of Dubious Consent keeps showing up as a motif in the arena isn't simply because the arena is set up by Akio. It's because the arena is symbolically/literally linked with his bedroom in specific.
     
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  18. strictly quadrilateral

    strictly quadrilateral alive, alive, alive!

    petra no
     
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  19. Lib

    Lib Well-Known Member

    petra why
     
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  20. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    no
    no thanks
     
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