Not really, no. Even the butchy Russian weightlifter woman is given a lot of feminine things. I don't mind people playing with making some of them less feminine in fanworks; I just object when it's clearly being done to make a ship fake-het. If you want heterosexual just do it, dammit. Alter one of their genders. Pick another character. whatever.
I'm never gonna get over how much Reylo shit features Kylo doing the dom. I entirely do not get the appeal. Not with anyone, really, but especially not with Rey. it's just. He's so. He'd be such a bad dom, tho. Like, if you find control sexy, why pin that on a dude who can't even control his own damn fool self??
Wow, I... would not have expected that. ALL the Kylo Ren appeal for me comes from someone putting a firm foot down and taking charge of him. How would he even dom effectively anyways? Wait, actually, I have a convenient transformers comic that communicates my thoughts about Kylo Ren trying to call the shots in bed. It's nsfw in spirit, but not so much in fact. I'm sure you'll never guess which of them he reminds me of.
Yes! Entirely that! Like, the most basic shit we got about Kylo Ren is that he's an indecisive little shitstain who's gonna be stubbornly miserable no matter what he chooses. The fuck's he supposed to do if you hand him someone else's reins?
I'm sorry if this is the wrong board to ask this on, but it seemed like a good place? I have a kind of shipping etiquette question that I was hoping someone might have an answer to. In DCU fandom, should Jason/Dick be tagged as incest? They're not blood related, but they were both adopted by Bruce Wayne (although at different times and, in Dick's case, only officially adopted as an adult). Pre-New 52, they never lived together; in the New 52 it's kind of unclear to me whether they both lived at the manor at the same time. What if it's an AU where one or both of them weren't adopted by Bruce? I feel like I have a weird blind spot with this, because Jason/Dick does not ping me as incest, but some other inter-Batfam ships, particularly Bruce/Dick, do (although it also seems to me that that is not a universal reaction to BruDick.) I'm a little worried that, by not tagging JayDick stuff as incest, I would be accidentally implying that adopted families aren't "real families," even though the canon specifics of this particular relationship are kind of complicated. I have absolutely no IRL experience with this stuff--I'm not adopted, I've never been in foster care, I don't even have any siblings. If anyone has any thoughts, I would definitely appreciate help navigating this. I've been thinking about it for weeks (hey there anxiety and OCD)
I feel like it's probably more idk courteous to tag as incest, just in case. I dunno that it's technically correct, I feel like if they're both adopted as adults and neither of them sees the other as a sibling than it doesn't really count, but i dunno that the technicalities matter so much if the end goal is to keep people from seeing content that's potentially upsetting.
looks like there's a 'potential incest' tag that redirects to the main incest tag on ao3, so you could try that?
Then again, if interbatfam pairings upset people, I'd kinda expect them to just not look at shit tagged with those pairing(s). I dunno how you'd go into that sorta fic not knowing about their relationship as it stands. Boy, that's. Tough.
I've seen it tagged as "pseudo-incest." Some people consider it close enough; some don't. I think it depends in large part on how the characters themselves see it, myself. But generally one tags the thing to be on the safe side, with clarification as necessary.
Yeah, part of the reason that this has gotten me worried is that it seemed like for a long time the standard was not to tag inter-BatFam ships as incest, and to save that tag for ships where the characters were related by blood. But I've recently seen some push back to that, with fans characterizing all inter-BatFam ships as explicitly incest (and push back to that push back etc. etc.) I don't want to upset anyone, but it's seems inevitable that someone is going to be upset either way, so. It also feels weird because it seems like a lot of the etiquette here depends on how you interpret canon relationships. Like, if you think of, for example, Bruce and Dick as primarily having a father-son bond, fics that ship them together would strike you as being incest-y. But if you think of them as having a mentor-protege type relationship, or as being equal crime-fighting partners, Bruce/Dick wouldn't strike you as incest-y. And since there is SO MUCH Batman canon, there are scenes and interactions that could justify each interpretation.
I'm not familiar with that particular fandom, but I think what I've seen in cases where there may be confusion is either an incest or pseudo-incest tag, immediately followed by a descriptive tag or two explaining the situation. Like "incest, not pseudo-incest, this is straight up incest" or "pseudo-incest, they don't consider each other siblings" or something like that.
Idk, it's weird in the cases of character pairings I like where the characters don't consider themselves siblings but a lot of fandom does, I don't tag it because to me the characters are not siblings and I'm a bit salty about the idea of tagging it for that when I don't view it that way by the same canon. I'm not familiar with Batfam canon though, and in this case, they're officially siblings I guess? I'd actually agree about maybe using the potential incest tag, because that sounds like it covers all people's interpretations.
You could probably straight up tag it "not incest" if you wanted to tag it at all, with optional further descriptions.
Shipping side characters nobody else remembers or likes. Is step-incest a legit tag? It should be. I think the Kindle porn market calls it pseudo-incest, so I'd go with that.
