Someone save me from math hell Q~Q

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by Derpyteacakes, May 8, 2017.

  1. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    if you have a 7 1/2" waist and a 1" dart, you would use 1 1/2 at the center front, then a ½”dart, then 3", then a ½”dart, and then 3". 1 1/2 is half of 3".

    i need this example in an equation with variables so i can plug different measurements into it for different sizes.

    i fails hs algebra twice damnit i can do this i have a headache
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2017
  2. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    So, from what you wrote up, as far as I can tell -
    7 1/2" = W
    1" = D

    (W/5) center front (D/2) dart, (2W/5) (D/2) dart (2W/5)
     
  3. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    ok so it needs to be W-D
    then lets say W-D=A
    A needs to be in 3 parts, 2 the same size and one half the size of the other 2

    Q~Q
     
  4. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    Ah, okay, yeah - if the final is A, then the total math would end up being (repeating what you said for easy of copy-pasting):

    W-D=A
    A/5=b
    layout is (b) (D/2) (2b) (D/2) (2b)
     
  5. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    erg that might be right?

    once you subract D its p much out
     
  6. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    oh my god it is right

    ty

    let me check a few more examples one sec
     
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  7. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    8 7/8 waist
    3/4 dart

    ok so if we plug this in and get 8 7/8 to 1 7/8, then a dart, 3 1/2 and then a dart and 3 1/2.
    there should be an extra 1/8 inch left over but it says to plop it anywhere and it would be fine?

    my brains to fried to do it im so stupid
     
  8. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    @Chiomi would the previous thing work for this as well?

    -Divide the base of the skirt into 2 and a half parts (ex. 10” = 2”,4”,4”)

    its the same just no dart sections
     
  9. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    yep!
     
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  10. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    @Chiomi do you feel up for helping me with a few other things?
     
  11. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

  12. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    ok so this is the method i was taught to use to draft a full circle skirt pattern im not sure if theres an easier way to do this but its all ive got

    Full Circle:
    This method creates a (cut 4) pattern piece that can me modified as desired

    (waist+ease) = A
    A/4=G
    G+chart amount=J
    J/2=drafting number

    -starting with a 90 degree corner, use a ruler and mark the drafting measurement with dots using the corner of the ruler, pivot and mark dots at the proper length from one edge to the other. This creates a series of dots that form a curve
    -draw a line connecting the dots, it should create a semicircle. (it should be a ‘fan’ shape) This is the waist portion of the pattern.
    -measure the desired length of the skirt from this curve in the same method as before, creating a larger curve (you’ll have two curves total)
    -measure and make sure the first curve is equal to the G measurement from earlier, if it isn’t add or take away from one of the edges
    -mark notches on both sides 7-8 inches down from the waist
    -mark the grain line: fold the pattern in half symmetrically, open up again; the fold line is the grain line, or use it as a reference to move the grain line to create different looks (if you use the fold as the grain line and don’t plan on modifying the pattern further make ¼ inch flare adjustments to both sides, blending smoothly)

    you end up with something that looks like the attached file
    a full circle skirt is four of those with the flat edges sewn together to form a donut shape
    the center circles circumference should equal "A"


    the issue i have is i also need methods to draft:
    Double Circle, which i think would be 8 pieces?
    ¾ Circle, 3?
    ½ Circle, 2?
    ¼ Circle, 1 piece



    so would the modification to the "formula" be:
    (waist+ease) = A
    A/(however many pieces you need for the type of skirt) =G
    G+chart amount=J
    J/2=drafting number

    im not sure...

    edit: no matter what kind of skirt it is the interior circumfrence must equal "A"
     

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    Last edited: May 22, 2017
  13. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    Okay, so I didn't listen to the below video, just made sure they were applying basically the same approach to make sure I'm on the right page about construction - only doing a circle skirt in two panels instead of four like you have written. With what you have there, the suggestion you have listed of just doing 8 pieces instead of 4 will work. For the narrower ones, the formula you have will still work? it just seems hard to extrapolate from if someone has a waist that they can't accommodate in one piece of fabric while they keeping the skirt the length they want.
     
  14. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    ok so she actually does use the same method she just fuzed two of the quarters together. what do you think of this?

    C=Waist + ease (Circumference)
    R=Radius
    C/( 2*Pi) = R

    Full Circle: R, cut 4
    Double Circle: R/2, cut 8
    ¾ Circle: R(1.33), cut 3
    ½ Circle: x 1.5 or 2???, cut 2
    ¼ Circle: x4???, cut 1
     
  15. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    I am not sure and will have to actually work through that - I will try to by later tonight.
     
  16. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    the top four are correct

    C=Waist + ease (Circumference)
    R=Radius
    C/( 2*Pi) = R


    Full Circle: R, cut 4
    Double Circle: R/2, cut 8
    ¾ Circle: R(1.33), cut 3
    ½ Circle: R(2), cut 2

    ¼ Circle: x4???, cut 1
     
  17. Derpyteacakes

    Derpyteacakes Thread Hermit

    heres another attempt to visualize them all

    the interior circles circumference is the same for all be the outer volume changes.
     

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