Steven Universe

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Wiwaxia, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Zuki

    Zuki Well-Known Member

    Shouldn't that be,

    Na na na na na na na na GEMMOM!

    :shadesbig:

    Sorry, not sorry
     
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  2. theambernerd

    theambernerd dead to all sense of shame

    I ship Ruby^5 now
     
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  3. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

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    Rather angry about it, jesus. I like the notion that being rather angry about being captured and interrogated means something untoward happened, when as far as we know Lapis was perfectly willing to work with Homeworld till Stevo was gonna get got. After all, getting captured and interrogated and dragged back to a planet you hate to hurt a dude you happen to like a lot by a planet that no longer feels like home, that's definitely not enough to be angry over.
     
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  4. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    Why does this feel like the fact that people make the dursleys cartoonishly abusive
     
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  5. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    There's this weird thing that people do where they play shit like they don't really think that what goes on in cannon justifies a character's mental state. Like, Lapis can't just be mad because she's gotten a whole heaping lot of shit piled on her in her life, and when she finally returns home, it's like she can't breathe the air there anymore, to borrow a metaphor. Peridot and Jasper don't have to rape her or pull out her fingernails one by one for her to be upset. Hell, they could have treated her perfectly nicely and she still could have projected her frustration with her entire deal on them and it would have made perfect sense. It's, like, so weirdly disrespectful? You gotta keep pushing and pushing, because any sorta anger or resentment is Too Much unless you've been beaten and tortured and raped. Only trauma from approved sources is just. Urgh, I dunno. I just hate it. Plus, it's like, Lapis had no reason to not cooperate with Homeworld. She did her best to assure Steveo's safety, but the other Gems could rot for all she cares. And there's no point in torturing a willing informant. There's no point in torturing anyone, really, cause it's a shit method for getting quality info, but.
     
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  6. liminal

    liminal I'm gonna make it through this year if it kills me

    "vibe I got from the situation" = "there is literally no evidence of this but I need a reason to hate Jasper and Peridot and there is no way my sweet baby would be angry and mean to someone unless they tortured her first." ...right?
     
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  7. OnnaStik

    OnnaStik Relatively nice for a bloodthirsty mercenary

    On the other hand, if no specific character were involved and you were asked what you thought a Homeworld interrogation probably entailed...
     
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  8. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Actually I'm wondering about that. They're Gems, so while they can get hurt they probably have different pain thresholds than humans...

    I wonder if interrogation involves a more high-tech version of that mirror Lapis was in?
     
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  9. missoyashirou

    missoyashirou Someone please give me a tiny dog to play with

    If that was the case, I wouldn't be too shocked she's actively livid at Jasper and Peridot, to the point of effectively taking one hostage for several months under the sea.
     
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  10. OnnaStik

    OnnaStik Relatively nice for a bloodthirsty mercenary

    Very good point, given that she apparently got mirrored in the first place for the purpose of interrogation.

    So, yeah. Mind you, the post in question's not great- she was plenty pissed at the CGs, who we now know did nothing to her except not attempting to save someone they knew nothing about. But it's also not a terrible stretch, and they even admit it's just their feeling.
     
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  11. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Even if she were tortured, it'd be pretty fucking slovenly of Homeworld to let some random techie and a guard do it. On a ship. After they had already extracted enough info to be like "OK, here's the mission and here's the resources we're devoting to it." P and J are not the be all end all of Home world's staff.

    And it's like, the stuff Home world could have done to forcibly extract info from her doesn't have to be torture to be degrading or humiliating or just godamned unpleasant. I dunno, I'm prolly overreacting. It feels to me like dismissing any pain or mistreatment whose goal is not primarily to cause pain.
     
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  12. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Prolly isolation. You can leave a gem alone in a room with absolutely nothing in it for practically forever. They don't even have to be fed or watered. Leave them alone with no hope of escape, and let them see one friendly face that immediately leaves if they don't get the info they want. Good cop, and literally nothing and nobody else, forever.
     
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  13. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    And that jives with Lapis in the prison cell. I seriously doubt that was the only time she'd been locked in there, defection to Steven or no.
     
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  14. OnnaStik

    OnnaStik Relatively nice for a bloodthirsty mercenary

    The goal of torture-for-information isn't- at least in theory- primarily to cause pain...? It's complete shit at accomplishing anything else, but those goals are still there. And maybe there's also some hairsplitting about definitions going on because
    ..............yeah that's definitely fricking torture good god
     
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  15. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    Also the more permanent damage you cause, the harder it is to get coherent information. Not that torture is ever really effective except to get the answers the victim thinks their torturere wants, but. The less permanent damage, the easier it is to make someone malleable without killing them.

    This is partly why waterboarding is a favored technique. No marks, and you can do it over and over. Starvation and isolation in conjunction with brief periods of non-injurious pain are a great way to break someone down pretty brutally.

    Gems don't need to eat or breathe, and bodily harm runs the risk of both damage to gem (reducing someone to being incapable of responding) or refusal to manifest that part of their light body. So! Isolation would be the most effective and least risky of all your options.
     
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  16. OnnaStik

    OnnaStik Relatively nice for a bloodthirsty mercenary

    It's still torture, though. I don't have the context of the person's blog; did they specify "rip and maim" stuff?
     
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  17. liminal

    liminal I'm gonna make it through this year if it kills me

    well actually...

    if you think about how gems lives revolve their role in society, I think the threat of a loss of place in society/"social death" would be enough to make most gems comply.

    There's also the "if you don't comply then a Diamond will hear about this, and she will probably want to harvest or shatter you"
     
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  18. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    No, that wasn't in response to you. Was typing it before you posted, and deleted it cause i figured it looked like a response.

    And I'm definitely inventing reasons to justify being upset. I don't know what the op meant, but I just had a negative emotional reaction, and I'm trying to justify it retroactively. Sorry.
     
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  19. liminal

    liminal I'm gonna make it through this year if it kills me

    Honestly I don't think they would have needed to torture Lapis to gather information. Not even isolation. Lapis wanted to go home, and she wants her life to go back to "normal". They could ask questions, and she would be under a lot of pressure to answer them just so she doesn't land herself in trouble. Steven is (or was) the only thing on Earth she cares about, and at that point she already sent out a message warning him and she was surprised to see him there.

    Yeah she was thrown in a cell, but that's after Jasper found out about Steven. It's possible that Lapis spent the way there just as free to walk around as Peridot and Jasper. Except you know... they aren't pleasant people to be around. She is mad because they used her as a tool to gather information which she... has a pretty terrible history with. That in and of itself I think is enough to explain how pissed she is at Jasper and Peridot. When she was pissed at the Crystal Gems for not helping her she tried to kill them, so being a jerk to Peridot and trapping Jasper in a fusion "just" because they treated her like a tool seems pretty reasonable for her character. Lapis is not a gem you want to piss off.

    Until we have actual confirmation that they tortured her, I'm going to assume that they didn't because they didn't have to. Innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
     
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  20. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Plus, her reaction was way more in line, considering her character, with Dealing With Assholes than it would be with severe mistreatment. Like @liminal said, her reaction to the CGs not letting her out of the mirror was to try and kill all of them. I highly doubt Peridot would've survived the encounter if anything particularly horrifying had happened between them.

    One COULD make an argument for Jasper having done something, given the whole Malachite thing, but Lapis' response to Peridot's actions was a LOT less extreme, so...I really doubt Peri was anything worse than annoying and bitchy.
     
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