The second computer strikes me as suspicious, especially because they don't show the inside of the case, even though it's clear glass, and the case is only shown from far away, and at an angle. The laptop might be decent, but, for about 450+tax you could get this one: https://www.microcenter.com/product...56-gaming-laptop-computer-refurbished---black It's refurbished, but that shouldn't matter too much, and the specs are better than the laptop you're looking at, notably it has a dedicated graphics card which will help with all games you might play on it, though it is on the more expensive side. If I was going to buy one, i'd probably go for the laptop. It should do minecraft and such fine for a while. All of the posts are a bit inflated imo, but that's not super surprising given that it's craigslist. Examples: The hard drive on the laptop really isn't anything special, the computer that needs a hard drive doesn't meet the minimum requirements for beatsaber.