TFs: DARE TO BE STUPID

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by itsAlana, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    I'm literally tearing up over how happy this thought makes me??? Highly illegal, Spock.
     
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  2. coldstars

    coldstars get Jazzy on it

    The Society6 sale owned my soul and I'm not complaining

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    Soundwave + fam mug!

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    He scream :V
     
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  3. Petra

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  4. Petra

    Petra space case

    Which is of course my way of saying you look great. :P
     
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  5. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    whine whine whine whine whine

    Sorryyy, I don't like to hate on other people's writing, but I just tried to power my way through this thing and I wanted to like it, but it was actually Super Uncomfortable, and ended on this really unsatisfying note, and I never have reading energy and I'm super frustrated I invested my time into this

    Again, this is super petty, sorry ;-; So in my quest for more Starscream all the time always, I happened upon this one long transformers fic labeled Optimus/Megatron/Starscream with all sorts of slavery and torture and noncon warnings, featuring Galvatron. And at first, very exciting! Sexual torture, Optimus being enslaved and moving from the WORST master (Galvatron) to a somewhat better one (Megatron), which gave me shades of TGWP, very exciting. The story's setting says that slaves have to have frequent sex with their masters, otherwise the slave coding fucks them up. The Autobots have been nearly wiped out, the Decepticons are in a nasty, drawn out fight with Galvatron's forces, we're all good to go. Yes? NO.

    Oh my goddddddd, I don't even know what happened. It was so frustrating. It started out all interesting with Megatron like 'optimus doesn't want to have sex with me, but he has to if he wants to survive, and also i am conflicted and maybe have some Feelings.' Also Galvatron had tortured Optimus so that his interface array was too damaged to be usable at first, so extra conflict because the slave coding will kill Optimus if he doesn't have sex with his new master soon. So that's my jam. But okay. Megatron is, like. Really rapey. Even apart from Optimus. But we're not supposed to hate him for it? I think? It's just How Decepticons Are? And he and Starscream have sex a lot, super rough sex that damages Starscream, and Megatron frequently uses violent sex and rape as punishments for him. But Starscream is into that, I think, so it's okay?

    I don't even know, the first time Megatron really gets into banging Optimus, he flashes back to this good ol' sexual fantasy he had where

    he literally stomps Optimus's spike into pulp before throwing him to the ground and pulverizing Optimus's valve with his spike

    so there was a lot of tonal dissonance when he immediately has this... noncon scene that is tender but also necessary for Optimus's survival? And also there was a flashback to this one time where he was raping Starscream as punishment for something, I don't even know, and he did it like literally on top of a pile of other Decepticons and he was being all sexually violent, and the other Decepticons were taking the opportunity to molest the hell out of Starscream, and present Starscream is still like 'yep, nothing wrong with that, that's just decepticon life'

    I would have been on board with a dead dove fic like this, but the emotions the characters were feeling were totally wrong for that, and I wanted to see how this would develop into something satisfying. I was getting kinda nervous that it was going to be all 'I don't mind being a slave if you're my master uwu', but there was a lot of fic left to go and lots of room for character development, and I wanted to give it a chance. To the author's credit, Optimus never settles down to be a good little slave. He is still all like 'uwaaaaaa, megatron-senpai is being so gentle with meeee~' but he also does the thing where he deliberately acts like a good slave so he can look for an opportunity to escape. Yeah, okay, the way things play out, I think I would have preferred the happy little slave ending.

    Optimus runs away. This is a frigid, dangerous planet, he doesn't have any fuel, and the slave coding will only give him a few days away from Megatron before it kills him. He's hoping to find Ratchet, find some way to de-slave code himself, and regroup. All the other autobots appear to be dead. Optimus eventually finds Ratchet's corpse, drags it around for a while, and eventually dies in the cold. Megatron and Starscream eventually find his body, and Megatron "keens" over it, and we're supposed to feel super bad for him, because he might have raped Optimus multiple times, but also TRUE WUB.

    And in the meantime, Starscream gets pragnent, gets kidnapped by Galvatron, gets brutally raped by Galvatron, briefly gets away only to be kidnapped and raped again by Galvatron. And all through this, he gets to stress about whether what he's going through is going to kill his babby. Megatron eventually duels Galvatron to the death for... llllllllove of Starscream? I think? And Megatron and Starscream find Optimus's corpse and Megatron is super duper sad, but then Starscream has one (1) baby, which means that the Cybertronian race is no longer going extinct (even though that puts the cybertronian population growth for this fic at like -49), and I guess that's a happy ending?

    I don't even know, man. I kept reading the character interactions as unhealthy/toxic pitch all around, but then they were talking about each other in super flushed terms and getting all mushy over how much they wuv the bot they've been regularly raping. I am Uncomfortable, but I can deal with uncomfortable. I'm frustrated!!!! This could have been so cool if this person committed to the character dynamics they were actually writing! Give me TGWP where Jazz isn't for-real falling in love with Soundwave and Soundwave is way less redeemable than he is in that story. Don't give me tittering torture-crazed medic Hook (who's totally off his rocker from losing the other constructicons and sexually tortures anyone he gets his hands on) and play it like comedy. Don't expect me to feel flutters when Megatron was physically and sexually abusive towards Starscream, but then after he's rescued from Galvatron, Megatron cradles him geeeeeeently in his arms and is sweet and tender with him because they're having a baby together. Just!! Commit to the idea you have!!!

    also commit to a pov for the course of a scene (sudden magical omniscience doesn't count) and maybe just commit to a verb tense for even the course of a sentence. PLEASE

    /petty

    Sorry, that was... a frustrating experience. All the components are something I'd be excited to see, but just. GAH. This is the 15th-most-kudos'd explicit Starscream fic on ao3 (the 9th is by the same author and tagged with similar warnings, and I am Not inclined to trust it), and that upsets me (ಥ⌣ಥ)
     
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  6. Petra

    Petra space case

    ...that sounds super upsetting.
     
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  7. mizushimo

    mizushimo the greatest hits

    Your weekly reminder that Lost Light #1 is coming out this month!
    AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!
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  8. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

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  9. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    'How does that feel' feels like you got a grimdark headcanon that you want to pretend is Super Edgy No One's Ever Thought Of This Before? :/
     
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  10. applechime

    applechime "well, you know, a very — a very crunchy person."

    oh HEY, i know that tumblr user, that's my Enemy from the TGWP LJ thread >:0
     
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  11. KingStarscream

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    This explains so much about their halfbaked theories and terrible ideas.
     
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  12. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Apparently the one post was an AU idea, but still. -_-
     
  13. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    ??
     
  14. applechime

    applechime "well, you know, a very — a very crunchy person."

    12drakon comments on TGWP updates on the regular, and their comments are always Not Good for Many Reasons, and they do not know it but because of this they are my Enemy
     
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  15. KingStarscream

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    The particular poster in question tends to comment on a ship fic about one half of the ship "enacting brutal revenge" and "showing [other half] who's boss" on... every update, thereabouts. And gloats about how this time will be the time the Powerful Revenge Will Be Revengenated every time there's a development. Despite the fact that this hasn't happened at all yet and won't unless the author in question has a stroke and forgets all previous characterization.

    Very hung up on Revenge, and Vengeance, and Taking The Power, which makes me utterly unsurprised that they'd have edgy grimdark headcanons too.
     
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  16. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    ...this would be the Jazz/Soundwave ship in particular? The one with the whole 'power dynamics shifting around' and 'so what if these two people started caring about each other and this was Extremely Worrying to them for many reasons' ? (at least that's my impression of TGWP from you guys' mentions)
     
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  17. applechime

    applechime "well, you know, a very — a very crunchy person."

    that's the one! 12drakon keeps waiting for jazz to dispense Sweet Revenge Morally Righteous Justice unto soundwave, despite the fact that for him to do so would be spitting in the face of several hundred thousand words of relationship-building. 12drakon is very vocal about how It's Totally Going To Happen, Any Chapter Now.
     
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  18. coldstars

    coldstars get Jazzy on it

    When it comes to people like that, I just patiently wait to pop my popcorn and enjoy the show when they are quite thoroughly proven wrong and realize that they'll never get their satisfaction :noms: Soon...soon...
     
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  19. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Any choice quotes? If they're particularly funny and not just grindingly annoying.
     
  20. applechime

    applechime "well, you know, a very — a very crunchy person."

    unfortunately they're not the kind of infuriating that lends itself well to comedy, they're just..... persistent. and the way they phrase things grates on my nerves because they don't say 'ooh what if x thing happens', they say 'oh man, can't wait until x thing happens. it's coming. won't it be a kick in the fuckin pants for soundwave when x thing finally happens'. like. GOD just shut uuuuuuup
     
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