The Wizarding World of Harry Potter (a thread for Potterheads)

I kinda expected "And then Molly Weasley woke up" at the end.

 

molly. it's molly's.

 

Oh. Right. Duh. :::PPP
#though I don't think she'd support 'albus severus'

 

Nobody said it was a happy dream for her. :p

 

Can I whinge a bit about the Marauders? Because Christ do I ever hate them. Mostly James and Sirius. I hate how their bullying ways are minimized and we're assured they grew out of them while not actually being shown any different behavior. I hate how they're freaking worshipped. I hate how just because their victim of choice grew up to be kind of The Worst, people (mostly tumblr, granted) act like he somehow retroactively deserved it. (It's not as if seeing how popular bullies get away with practically anything could possibly be part of someone growing up an asshole, right?)

Fuck.

 

@OnnaStik feel free; i love the marauders but in a "they r my trash babies" kind of way, because lets be real - as teenage boys do, they were kinda huge assholes, with remus (and possibly james??? who knows, apparently he grew out of it enough for lily) growing out of it and sirius......notsomuch

(for some reason i recall remus apologizing to snape for being a bystander?? i dont know if this actually occurred or not but it seems in-character so)

 

Oh, also James/Lily, I hate how the same damn site that hounds people for enemyshipping is all over a ship that's "guy wants girl, guy is a dick to girl, girl wants nothing to do with guy, ?????, Profit! Twu Wuv"

...I may be slightly bitter. Just a touch.

 

I mean I get not liking the Marauders and James/Lily and I can definitely respect people not liking them, but I would like to point out that Snape invented sectumsempra while in school.

 

Okay. I'm not sure how that's a "but"...?

 

i think the idea is that it's an incredibly violent spell, but... like, so many spells are violent, with the right applications, and we have no evidence of snape ever using the spell, just inventing it (and who knows what result he was actually going for, when he got the result he got) (maybe it was meant to chop potions ingredients, not people).

i mean this is from what i remember, i haven't read HBP in years now. :V but even if it was meant to be a violent spell........ so what? i bet there's lots of angry and frustrated kids who make angry and violent spells at hogwarts, it doesn't make them somehow deserving of maltreatment.

 

ISTR it was labeled "for enemies" but that we do indeed not have any indication that he was actually going around maiming people. Pretty sure we'd have heard about it if he had. I will also add that violent fantasies- and presumably the dreaming up of violent spells, in an environment where cursing and hexing is that socially approved-of- isn't all that unusual in people who are being tortured by their peers and have reason to believe no one in authority has any interest in putting a stop to it.

 

i mean i get not liking the marauders, they very much were a certain type of cocky teenage boy that is not super likable to everyone, but snape was not exactly an innocent teenager. before he even gets to hogwarts he's already demonstrating that he's a racist little shitbag and trying to turn lily against petunia. he joined the death eaters young, presumably while he was still at hogwarts since he was already on speaking terms with voldemort when lily and james were killed like a year after they left, and actively targeted remus because of his lycanthropy, which are both ridiculously shitty things to do regardless of whatever trauma you have.

i'm not saying he deserved to be bullied, but i wouldn't go so far as to say that he was a tortured victim. remus says he gave as good as he got and i believe it.

 

It's also important to note that despite being purebloods who would be okay if the war turned in death eater favor, James and Sirius risked life and limb to fight against it because they knew it wasn't right. They also accepted Remus without question despite the stigma against dark creatures, and went through incredibly rigorous magical training to be able to be there for him on the full moon. On the other hand, Snape was hanging out with people with death eater sentiments as young as fifteen, actively bullied Remus and tried to out him as a werewolf, and called Lily a mudblood. He was definitely a product of his home life and the bullying, and as someone who was bullied too I do feel for him- but he carried that resentment into his job. He was a thirteen year old's worst fear. He was a bully too. I don't think Lily would have loved James if he was one when he got older.

 

I don't hate the Marauders, but I'm definitely on Team "I wish she'd shown SOMETHING of at least James changing." Like if he had tried to offer Snape an olive branch after the whole mess in the Shrieking Shack or something.

 

Yeah, it's sort of hard to like James as a person when our only real exposure to him is a scene of him bullying Snape and hateflirting with Lily. I'm a little more willing to be lenient with Sirius especially in the context of him never growing up because dude got framed for the murder of his best friends and trapped in Hell Prison for 13 years, I am not even remotely surprised he never grew up and remained a reckless, desperate shithead.

But on that note, Snape's introduction into Slytherin probably played a huge part in his eventual joining the Death Eaters. Frat culture is hell, and Hogwart is frat culture dialed up to eleven with compulsory induction, with a healthy side order of "already sort of an abused kid." Which doesn't excuse the shit he said to Lily or what he grew up to become, but I'd fucking despise James too in that position.

(Also on that note: We knew Sirius's homelife was absolute shit, but did we ever get anything about James? Fanon as far as I've seen has mostly been "the Potters were Rich and Pureblood but also Good Old Chaps who didn't believe in any of this purity nonsense and would have opposed Voldemort to begin with.")

 

Yeah, and then a year later he gets thrown back into Grimmauld Place all alone except for Kreacher (who hates him) and a bunch of screaming portraits (who also hate him). Like, no wonder he goes even further into that frat-boy-bully mentality and is such a dick to Kreacher, since he's basically under house arrest in the Trigger Mansion. Dumbles, would it have killed you to find him a cottage in the countryside, have Dobby bring him food, and use a Fidelius Charm or something?

 

i mean the potters were a traditionally gryffindor family so obviously they were on the *~*~*good side*~*~*

 

Blergh. I've probably shared my theory about the Sorting Hat's prioritizing of individual choice probably being responsible for "traditionally [house] families" and that probably having a lot to do with the state of Hogwarts's toxic frat culture (and how it extends into general pureblood society's racism) already in this thread, but I can't remember for sure or not.

 

There's a reason why in my fanfic the hat is so incredibly done with everything

 

you should share it again anyway, because I'm curious, and can't seem to find it.