It's honestly not even really about whether it'd be good to hurt bad people. That question, it turns out, can't become relevant until we have a way to discern between good and bad people, and... we don't, really. Last estimate I saw was that about a third of people convicted of capital crimes in the US can end up exonerated by unambiguous proof later on. And that's with trial by jury, appeals, standards of evidence, and all that. If all you've got is a fighty brain that has a track record of being wrong about who needs to be hurt well over 95% of the time, the only rational answer is to hurt no one at all, because if you hurt anyone, anyone at all, you can be quite sure that you will be hurting innocent people more often than you hurt guilty people. And if you sum up all the harm done by all the guilty people you hurt, you'll find that it's a drop in the bucket compared to the harm you did supposedly in the process of trying to get to them. I don't actually remember the "have you tried actually helping people" thing, but... it's actually pretty decent advice. It's maybe not exactly phrased persuasively or politely, but in terms of "courses of action to take if you want to make things better", it's pretty much solid gold. It works really well. The reason there are so many shitty and abusive cops is that no one who wants that kind of power should ever have it. Alix, the degree to which you want the power to judge is, in and of itself, proof that you should absolutely not be the one doing it. You are an exemplar of the failure mode that makes for incredibly abusive cops. Don't you get it? The worst cops aren't the dirty cops who are completely insincere and just in it for the bribes. They're the ones who think they are protecting us. The ones who are bravely, heroically, protecting us from the blacks and the mentally ill people, and who are prepared to do whatever dirty tricks and cheating is necessary to make sure they Keep Us Safe. They're the worst. They're the ones that kill innocent people, they're the ones that rape prisoners and torture prisoners, and every time, they are firmly convinced that they are just doing what's necessary, and they have to do it, because otherwise lawlessness and bad guys getting away with it. And nothing they do even makes sense. It is obvious to everyone else that "keep a toy gun in the car so if you shoot someone you can plant it on them" is a sign that something's gone horribly wrong. But you expect us to think that "habitually access every site through VPNs and make multiple accounts" is somehow, in any way, a sign of anything but premeditated and planned abuse. It's not. It's you being an innately-awful cop. It's you loving power and calling it "justice". And it needs to stop. And you can stop the worst of it, in one simple step, by calling it by its true name. This is one of the few demons that really can be shut down completely by just using its true name. Call it what it is, don't let it pretend to be anything else, and let all its excuses and justifications go. Be who you are. If you're an asshole sometimes, but you don't pretend it's For Their Own Good, you'll be infinitely more pleasant to interact with than you are now. The cruelty is bad, but what's really making it impossible to put up with is the dishonesty. And I know, you really feel like what you're saying is true. But it can't be true. Nothing you do makes any sense considered in light of your alleged goals. So. Call it what it is, reject it, and watch life get easier. Not easy, mind. Just easier.