Undertale - Pet dogs and date a skeleton!

Spoiler: lets have all our conversations in spoilers

Hey, it's cool! I can totally understand, no worries.

You know what would be neat to think about though? Divergences in the Genocide Run.

For example, if Flowey hadn't killed Asgore, think about it; if he could destroy your mercy button, he could probably destroy your fight button too.

Another thing I think about is, fighting one of the ghosts. If you tried to kill Napstablook in a neutral run, you KNOW that ghosts can't die. They're already dead! Only the ones that become corporeal once again are able to be killed. Thinking about it, Mettaton would have been much harder to defeat if they hadn't had the robot body at all!

From one of the neutral run endings as well, we know Alphys says:

And I'm STILL WONDERING WHAT SHE MEANT BY THAT. What chance?

A thought that makes me laugh though: Sans taking an entire turn to read to you the entire script of The Bee Movie. And you have to button mash through. The Whole. Thing.

A thought that is even funnier. After your turn, he does the same damn thing all over again.

It's also interesting to me that nobody during that run was able to absorb the human souls to stop you. God, fighting Sans would be even worse with that nonsense.

 

YESSSSSSS. That would be super neat. I mean at least we have fanfiction I guess but wow. That would be neat in game...

 

Spoiler: OH MY GOD

SO I THOUGHT I WAS BEING ORIGINAL WITH THAT BEE MOVIE THING

BUT I TOLD A FRIEND IN SKYPE AND THEY SENT ME THIS

I'M WHEEZING

 

so i went to start a genocide run and got guilt-tripped by flowey

and now i feel too guilty to start it

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HI I AM DYING HOLY SHIT

 

Spoiler: "...when I had the chance."

The chance Alphys is alluding to could be at a lot of points, since the moment you leave the ruins, there are video cameras hidden everywhere. There's one hidden behind the very first boulder you see, even. The earliest possible point I can think of that's obvious is that Mettatron is the machine Papyrus is using to control the color puzzle.

 

I'm so glad I figured out how not to kill Toriel on my first run because it would probably have made me feel too bad to keep playing... /wimp

 

As am I. I just stubbornly hit the spare button until something happened. My friend killed her because he's far more cynical than I am.

Him: Well I guess I can't save Mom and she was kind of suspicious anyway. *MURDERS IN COLD BLOOD*

Me: *legit just lets her kill me by laying on the floor and crying*

 

The funny thing is, I thought there was no way to spare Toriel - or, I thought that I could possibly spare her when she got to low health only then the last blow dealt a surprising amount of damage.

But I was convinced I could find a way to spare Asgore - I just kept talking, and when that didn't work I hit "fight" but intentionally missed every blow in hopes that would be an alternative to the mercy button Asgore had destroyed. I was in tears at one point because I was basically "noooo I already murdered your wife I don't deserve to leave the underground I don't want to fight you just take my soul".

This game. Gives me lots of emotions.

 

i paid attention to what the froggits said and was able to spare toriel on my first try, so i had no worries about whittling down asgore's health

 

Finished it! But not really! I've been tasked with a perfect pacifist run, which shouldn't be too hard, given I only killed on person this run through.

Spoiler: natterings

A froggit finished off that little story time moment in the castle with "you'll be free", and I figure it's probably not because I killed that one froggit that one time, but holy fuck did it hit me hard. Fucking. It's so weird how I'm actually guilty over that. I can re do everything and never have killed it in the first place. In fact, I'm going to. I just. Urgh, I don't even have the excuse of ignorance. I knew full well right from the start that I could spare it, and that's probably the worst part. No, the worst part is I never got to talk to Alphys after the fight with Mettaton. Proper talk, I mean. And Undyne, fuck. She's still mad at me. I didn't fix anything and I ruined her life and I'm still a froggit murderer. *incoherent growly noises*

 

you know,

Spoiler

i wonder what a pacifist run fight with sans would look like. i'd imagine he'd allow you mercy invincibility and i don't think he'd use some of his dirtier attacks (geeettttttt dunked on!!!), and i really like to imagine how it would play out

 

Finished my pacifist run earlier, I don't think I have the heart to reset, but it's sort of a personal reason why!

Spoiler: Avery is a huge baby!

So, timeline fuckery is pretty upsetting for me to think about! Like, making people repeat the same thing, over and over and over. I like to think that leaving the game in the Pacifist Ending lets them escape it. I don't want to let them think it's over and throw them right back into it, because why should they trust that it'll ever stop then?

 

i should ramble about samsara and how it is presented in this game

 

Just finished true pacifist last night (2nd run, after a neutral one) and....agghhgh. IT WAS SO GODDAMN FUN. I WANT TO PLAY IT AGAIN. BUT IT EXPLICITLY ASKED ME NOT TO :'<

maybe if I like. transfer my save file to my external drive, uninstall the game from my computer, then restart it fresh it'll be like...a parallel universe, instead of one that overwrites the old one? it's not my fault your time travel mechanism is dickish, undertale-verse.

 

Well, I need to buy this game and play it but I can't do that without massive amounts of guilt until I get my work done... I really can't wait to see how all this fits together, because from what I've seen there are a bunch of things going on and I have no idea how they all make one cohesive plot.

 

soooooOOOOOOOO my brother has undertale
and he let's me watch while he plays it because I'm a) a dirty backseat gamer, b) have near non existant hand eye coordination and screech and flail when bullethell stuff happens, c) hands hurt much when play lot.

Spoiler: flowey

(And let me tell you how creepy those lines from Flowey where for us. My brother and I just stared at each other like 'holy fuck')

And thus far we have completed (I say we because I'm on guide look up duty for the frustrating shit. I always am. I'm the designated family research geek!) the pre-pacifist and true pacifist ending and are stuck on Sans' portion of the Genocide run
mostly because

Spoiler: a lot of swear words

FUCK HIS STUPID FUCKING BOSS FIGHT UP EVERY ORIFICE WITHOUT LUBE, OH MY GOD SANS YOU DIRTY FUCKING CHEATER HOW DARE YOU WE DID NOT MURDER EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE UNDERGROUND FOR YOUR CHEAP FUCKING POISON DAMAGE GET THE FUCK OUT WITH YOUR SMUG BULLSHIT AND STUPID COMBINATION OF PLATFORMER AND BULLETHELL NO ONE ASKED FOR THOSE TWO GENRES TO PROCREATE AND SPAWN THIS LITERAL ANTI-CHRIST'S LEFT BUTTCHEEK-TUMOR OF A FIGHT.

(Disclaimer: from an art-analyses perspective I adore Sans' bossfight. It is a beautiful analysis of genre assumptions just. Nope. I couldn't do it if my life depended on it and my brother is beyond done.)

oh while we are on the topic
So I have this games analysis class in uni rn and

Spoiler: project ramblings I hope whimsi helps me with this once they've played udertale

I've been thinking, with the genocide run you have a pretty good idea of how many people you actually killed, right? it's pretty straight forward to tally up at least a minimum number, given that random encounters may give you above-requirements-numbers-of-enemies.
And I've... never really thought about how many monster and people die in the average regular rpg? It's honestly kind of upsetting to think about since on the g-route you literally cannot grind beyond the maximum amount of enemies the game will provide you with, which is generally not a thing in RPGs, which will provide endless mobs to slaughter for the sake of Money and EXP.
And I kinda want to run another (indie-)rpg (was thinking OFF, probably, simply because I have that too) for comparison, keeping count of all enemies that die and stuff.
I wonder how bad the difference is TuT

 

so, completely unrelated to the current conversation, buuuut... i saw on the undertale subreddit, someone pointed out that when sans does the little "incidental music" thing when you're on the date with papyrus, he plays the trombone. puns!!!

and it's even funnier to me when I really think about it, because papyrus says he can't kiss you since he doesn't have lips. but like. how can sans play a brass instrument without them? I kind of want to see fanart of him like, holding a trombone mouthpiece up to his teeth and just. blowing air out through his teeth really forcefully and papyrus is like "what are you doing" and sans is like, "gotta warm up my embouchure, bro" and just walks around the house making weird brass noises.

hopefully someone else loves that mental image as much as i do, omg
edit: and of course, he can do it because of rule of funny and the same hand-wave logic that explains why skeletons have no problems saying "b" or "m" despite not having the right mouth parts to make those sounds. and idk i think that makes it even funnier

 

I have thought a LOT about skeleton anatomy because that's just what I do, and the only consistent explanation is magic. It'd be more of an asspull if that weren't stated to be what holds monsters together in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, skelebros can do whatever they feel like they should be able to do. Papyrus can't kiss you because he doesn't really want to. XD

 

i'm cracking myself up here, one of my music teachers in high school would walk around the classroom before class started, warming up his embouchure by just buzzing like "bbbbbbbbbbb" so now i'm just envisioning sans doing whatever, idk waiting around at his station in snowdin

sans: bbbbbbBBBBB
papyrus, in the distance: SANS DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT
sans: [continues making motorboat noises]
papyrus: SANS!!!
sans: [buzzes along to his own theme music]

anyway, skeletons are v silly and this is a good game