Got best ending. Also knowing that there are apparently a lot of variations on the neutral ending fills me with a strange desire to try and get as many as I can myself. But then replaying shit to the point of no return is just. My thing. Also reminds me that I need to 100% the support list in Sacred Stones again. That's always fun. Anyway. Next ending will be the horribly fucking murdering everyone I know and love route. Thank christ Toriel comes first.
I got the pure pacifist ending on my first run through and now can never play the game again. Not my copy of it, anyway.
too late it is GONNA also i am writing a fic featuring an au of my first theory from my first playthrough. which was i was pretty fuckin' sure it was toriel killin' humans but oops i was wrong. SO NOW I HAVE TO WRITE ABOUT IT.
I cried in the house before the castle because I was so fucking sure I would have to kill her. And I was like no I cannot kill mom. She is my mom. MOM NO.
I KNOW OMFG. I just. I stared at that box of shoes for a while too. Messaged my boyfriend (who bought me the game cuz he had been playing it too) i was like "dude, toriel is killing these kids huh" he just told me to keep playing and i was like "dude no do i have to fight toriel she's mom and i don't want to fight her" i fought her. i killed her. i cried. i cried a lot. AND THEN i found out i didn't have to kill her
ohh noo i finished this game on sunday & just. [emotions]. i got the pacifist ending (it was long & painstaking & undyne + mettaton both wiped the floor with me many, many times). oh jeeze, that box of shoes & the box of dusty toys skeeved me out at the beginning too. i can guess where the toys are from (sad feelings all around), but the shoes? Spoiler: spoilers for ending i think the toys were asriel's & the first kid's, & toriel's still not over their deaths so she holds onto their toys. also, keeping them to try & entice the next kid who falls down the mountain into staying with her. that, or she's just awful at cleaning up? maybe i too killed goat mom the first time then found out it didn't have to happen. I'M SORRY MOM. IT NEVER HAPPENED. then i never killed anyone again & everything was good, everyone was my friend ESPECIALLY UNDYNE
I kind of figured the shoes came from garbage that washed down from aboveground, and that toriel had collected them in anticipation of humans falling down? @Bel Capricorn She screams about her heart breaking, then thanks you for being honest and says she'll just have to try to accept the reality she lives in.
Ok so having given that up I went and spoiled myself on the genocide ending. Which has led to some disappointment. Because I am a stubborn Buddhist, god dammit. We are powered by pure endless determination. SO SPOILERS I GUESS YO. Spoiler: Ooh sexy spoiler ooh Ok so the thing that disappoints me is the seeming inability to save Chara which in a game where I can solve all my problems without violence is absolutely fucking unacceptable. I demand the SAVE THE DEMON CHILD dlc tobyfox. Deliver this to my doorstep or may Budai stare at you disconcertingly as you sleep till you die. Anyway. Determination and save fuckery reminded me of something I like a lot. Namely those bullshit rumors surrounding Mew and how to get one in gen 1 of the pokemons. While they all eventually go back to the truck for the most part there is often an absolutely insane level of set up with them all. And not just any kind of set up but the most inane bullshit ever. Probably because people found out how to get the game to glitch out but didn't really get what was happening. The people who searched for Mews were crazy determined bastards. Obsessed with this one fucking truck and armed with their know how about the fact that the game could be broken. Some. How. So basically my idea for a shitty SAVE THE DEMON CHILD fanfic would involve that as the premise. Namely everyone is stuck in the loops just kind of. Seemingly forever. When finally through sheer dumb luck/determination the world begins to glitch out. But this then gets forgotten over EVEN MORE LOOPS. UNTIL AT LAST WE ALL REALIZE THAT MAYBE WE CAN POWER OF FRIENDSHIP ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE OUT VIA FUCKING WITH REALITY. And thus all our friends band together to perform the exact seemingly bullshit actions needed to get out of this whole "Chara is possessing Frisk and life sucks yo" situation. It will have to involve something like Undyne needs to walk seven steps back and forth in front of the snail farm twenty-seven times but also must make sure to name her snail GFFFFGGHG exactly because that is the value we need name wise on that one particular snail and Papyrus needs to open the menu open the items check a cinnamonbun and check it again and then drop it and then check a manly bandana to clone the cinnmonbun and so on.
I gain partners in crime. Good. Yes. Not really sure where to start with this madness but then I am tired and it is late so. Thing. Still it is a thing I will think about and try and work on.
Actually, I have some thoughts on that! Spoiler: Little did you know, this spaghetti is a trap... I actually think that in taking the pacifist route, you do in effect "save" Chara. There was some meta I read that makes me come to this theory. While the genocide run is characterized as feeding Chara's maliciousness, the Pacifist run can be characterized as putting their spirit to rest, similar with how Asriel's is in the True End battle. The interesting thing about the pacifist run is that you play the entire game under the name you have inadvertently chosen for Chara, the first fallen child, but people in-game only start to recognize Frisk by their name after achieving the True Pacifist Ending. We don't get to see this obviously in the Genocide route. But I think the dialogue we DO get at the end there is really good evidence for this. It isn't just Chara then; it's YOUR guidance of Chara that leads you to the genocide ending. Certainly Chara is confirmed to have hated humanity. The last conversation with Asriel confirms this. But I'm unsure if I would categorize them as a "demon child" because Undertale doesn't seem like that kind of game. I'm recalling what this person had to say on the idea: I think it's really important though that nobody recognizes you as "Chara" once the true pacifist ending has been achieved. And I feel like the marker where we can count them as put to rest is the same marker where we would say Asriel was saved and brought to rest too. That's just what I've been thinking though!
I can agree with that interpretation. I wish I knew more about it, and about frisk. I wanna know everythingggggg
