when frisk reaches the barrier they're like. "does the soul need to be from a dead human?" and asriel goes "not sure" it doesn't, they manage to break the barrier without killing frisk frisk falls asleep on the floor and toriel is Concerned and tries to wake them up and frisk just...starts hugging her like a teddy bear
all the other kids are Concerned too but less so once frisk actually moves they were worried frisk had fallen down nope, just sleeping
asriel can't separate them he has to just...carry frisk and toriel to a bed toriel isn't tired but frisk won't let go
frisk wakes up like 16 hours later in a pile of children all the kids decided to just pile into the same bed as frisk they are somewhat concerned chara thinks it's hilarious
also i have this headcanon that people with the power to SAVE have their eye-colour determined by the colour of their DT if they are at baseline kindertale frisk is not at baseline so their eyes are just...black they wake up on asriel's spare bed to find themself under a pile of children...who are all worried because frisk's eye colour changed
ok wait what happened to chara in this universe. Spoiler: should i even warn for ut spoilers at this point because if they died w/their soul intact while still in the underground and asriel didn't do the canon thing he does, then their soul could be stored just like the 6 following fallen humans' were. which would mean that when yellow-soul-human fell down and died, asriel would have the 7 souls needed to break the barrier, assuming he stored them like asgore did?
(spoons correspond somewhat to DT so someone who is exhausted would be below baseline-exactly how dark frisk's eyes are depends on their mood and how tired they are. if they're well-rested and in a good mood they're blood-red. if they're well-rested and feeling really determined sometimes their eyes stop reacting to shadows as such and just stay the same shade of red no matter the lighting. if they're tired their eyes are anything from 'slightly darker than normal' to 'almost black', the total black was exhaustion+depression)
and i'm tempted to say that chara's soul fell apart because, while human souls last quite a while, they don't last forever, else there'd be like...100 billion souls on the surface. it's just be a sea of souls from everyone who died, ever, in the history of the human species, or possibly in the history of the genus Homo. so they only last a few years or so. asriel didn't get it into a soul jar in time.
makes sense alternatively, depending on your preferred timeline of events / just how long it was between chara's fall and frisk's, you could take the headcanon that the soul jar only prolongs the life/intactness of the soul for so long - much longer than it lasts outside a soul jar, but still not indefinitely, and so chara's soul fell apart eventually even tho it was in a soul jar
Theres a new episode out of the underverse animation series by jakei and it is Very Good. The idea to use a kazoo for fresh's speech (oh yeah i guess minor spoiler fresh is in the mix now) was really creative :0
This makes me curious to know what kind of burial procedures humans would have if souls were something that continued to exist for a few years. I dont see humans putting it in a casket to rot with its empty shell of a body? In the same vein, i wonder how cremation would be viewed in universe? I imagine itd be a touchy subject for both monsters and humans, early post war humans not being cool with their loved ones looking like monster remains, and monsters being supremely creeped out at humans morbidly keeping their loved ones' "dust" around in a jar instead of spreading it over a beloved thing (is that fanon btw?) This could get super angsty if boss monsters do live an obscenely long time, i could imagine them getting close to escape several times over centuries only to have some of the souls eventually dissipate over time before more humans fell in.
i saw a thing where humans generally passed their souls onto their descendants, so it was pretty normal to have like...great-grandma's soul sitting on the mantlepiece or wherever there's probably someone out there using their grandmother's soul as a lamp because "she didn't like the dark so she gets to chase it away" (also the spreading the dust on things they love lore actually is from the game-a book in snowdin librarby says it. i think it's a school journal type thing, with a whole lot of small things written by kids collated into one book.)
i also saw a thing where chara, after taking control of asriel's body, was like "monster funerals are better anyway" and just. incinerated their old body with asriel's fire magic. asriel: uhhh chara: *smears their own ashes on asriel's face like makeup* asriel: ...thanks but uhhhhhhhhhhh
i don't think human souls are conscious post-death outside of a body, generally they might be conscious if you feed the right magic types and frequencies into them, though
that might actually be another function of the soul jars-as well as keeping them around, feeding them magic to strengthen them/increase the amount of soul available to use
I also saw a thing where the area around Mt Ebott favours cremation. That was in an AU where monster dust was addictive and reacted in odd ways to DT, resulting in the soldiers from the human/monster war becoming very violent incredibly-hard-to-kill minor shapeshifters. Basically an entire army of human Floweys. The village took to burning their dead to make sure that they didn't get back up and start killing things.
anyway back to kindertale which can be read as both 'kinder' as in the german word for children, or kinder as in "more kind" (even the AU name is a pun) frisk was in a completely terrible situation on the surface. while in the underground, they get a lot of money-for reasons varying from monsters apologizing for attacking them to the kids just...passing frisk their moneyboxes. when they break the barrier they're like..."the monsters are free! i'm free! holy crud they have gold money i have like thousands of gold i am so rich i could sell it and buy a house...away from my previous family...to raise all my new kids in!"
more kindertale frisk finds papyrus very upset because sans fell asleep watching out for ruins refugees and wouldn't wake up they save sans's life-he was technically in the early stages of falling down, so immobile and unresponsive but still able to hear things. like hearing that suddenly a human adult is there and trying to take care of him. (also getting him warmed up helped.) asgore and toriel came from a surrogate, the only boss monsters alive are them and asriel.