Discussion in 'It's Galley's Turn' started by Raire, Sep 9, 2016.
I like it!
i desperately want to rewrite Ramoth's first mating flight with our edits to how dragon mating works. just Lessa going about her day, incredibly and overwhelmingly horny, but she's got Things To Do Today, and just trying to ignore it and failing miserably but not knowing what the everloving hell is going on since canonically she's never been in sexual scenarios.
Lessa: "YES WHAT HELLO sorry what do you need?"
Manora: "Dear, are you alright? You're awfully red in the face."
Lessa: "Yes, i'm fine, just fine perfectly ok nothing's the matter."
Manora: *side-eyes strongly* "Are you quite sure?"
Lessa: "YES IM FINE please, which way's the restroom again?"
Manora: *side-eyes even more strongly* "Lessa, you've been here a Turn and a half, you know where the restrooms are."
Lessa: "Oh right thank you. I need to go. Now. Bye!" *scampers off*
Manora: *smirks and adds "more lube" to the Weyr's shopping list*
this also makes me think that this would be a good way to show how sex ed is done in Nicer Pern, since Fax is a fucking cuntmonkey that didn't allow his subjects public education or decent exposure to those who had it, so Lessa would grow up without that education. once Manora finds out, she's too good a person and too much a mom to everyone that allows her to mom them to not teach Lessa what she missed out on, and given Lessa's position as a dragonrider sex ed is a Must.
i ship it
i tentitivly have plans to join the RP. i already have a character partially developed for a different redo of Pern, i'll just work on tweaking them for the setting we've made here
i think they can :? like quite a few of the plants menolly eats are ones that are described as native to pern in the various meta books. and if they can add better digestion to herd animals they can sure as hell add it to humans as well. maybe not the original settlers but their kids?
might be a hold over from the colonists who were said to be just recovering from a war (and thus prolly wanting to forget about it asap), or a product of Anne not caring much for lore consistency or cause/effect when it gets in the way of her psudo-medievel scifi dragons sex pollon fic
the pernese don't write zombie apocalypses, they write thread apocalypses
or: kintsi, tsugi, sugi
and i like the figure-8 pattern to the passes and intervals. you don't even need to disregard canon to have it. it would make sense to alter the path of a planetoid/moon when its already on an altered path/closer to what you want anyway.
So, is there still interest in Kintsu Weyr? We have some things to refine and all, but we have an interesting premise already.
I'm still interested, but I just got accepted back into college, so my plate is full for the forseeable future
I was always in the maybe boat but I am no more or less a maybe than I was previously
I'm still interested! I'm also starting school and trying to kickstart a couple other RPs though, so that might make it harder.
generally the same for me
still interested but health issues and a currently ongoing RP are kind of taking all my spoons right now
And I'm concentrating on my health and on job searching, so there are some limitations there as well. But we can work lightly on it and just do some talking/organizing.
What do you guys think we need to concentrate on right now to organize shit? I still have those documents I drew up.
Did we want to start with the Weyr and then move outwards for characters? And I guess a basic idea of "what are we starting with/what is the starting plot conlflict" would be a good place to work from. I know we hashed out a lot of theorybuilding for the world and stuff, so most of that's handled?
There's something I remember from time on a more canon compliant Pern RP place that needs to be addressed I think, and that's the matter of religion.
Apparently Anne was like 'No religion on Pern, of any kind, ever'. But really...that is not how humans work.
You can if you want postulate that the original colonists all disliked religion and deliberately did not pass on any Earth religious knowledge of any kind but that doesn't mean that religion would just stop happening. People are inclined towards magical thinking, they're inclined to numinous psychological experiences, and they're inclined to ask existential questions. New religions would develop.
I mean shit, people already cuss by the name of Faranth in canon, it is REALLY not that much of a stretch to imagine that over the years the memory of the most famous gold of the first clutch ever has given rise to a form of worship, veneration of a goddess-figure, the First Mother of Dragons. (Also, ancestor worship=yespls!)
Doesn't Peimur say "by the First Shell" and stuff too? I thought that ancestor worship on Pern was pretty well established, though it makes sense that Anne would just... handwave it away and say 'no religion ever'.
As far as I know, she did. I whargarbled a lot.
Now there's a story right there, or at least those "And now I shall expound upon an obscure/cool/relevant-but-not-very topic" things. Alas, I am not versed in how religions develop, even in the "I read too much wikipedia" sense.
so if there's religion, and its based on the first queen being a mother goddess type thing, would that make the dragonriders something like paladins/priest-knights? Chosen By The Dragons becomes chosen by the decedents of god?
cause when put that way im thinking Anne TOTALLY did that but either didn't want to call it that or didn't consciously realize it. and i thought we were moving away from the unfortunate implications of that
...uh tl;dr: religion is a Thing that happens with humans, but we might want to be careful we don't wrap back around to Anne-level squick with it on accident
I think that some degree of reverence towards dragon riders is bound to happen in any universe where Thread hasn't been fully scientifically explained and then dealt with through nonhuman intervention. I mean, on it's own, "this man literally rides a firebreathing psychic beast who's three times the size of a peaseant croft" is pretty impressive. "Now this man and his firebreathing psychic dragon are literally saving the world in a highly spectacular way with verifiable results"? Yeah, there was going to be some amount of veneration towards dragon riders regardless.
(Wasn't that an issue with the Oldtimers? They didn't feel respected, or more accurately worshiped, enough in part because F'lar and Lessa were very human in the eyes of the rest of Pern and dealt with Pern relatively fairly all things considered.)
As long as we're not having our dragon riders handing down high proclamations of How Things Should Be (and we'll enforce it because Might Makes Right) I think we're fairly safe. The Holders had their own degree of pride and disdain for the dragon riders, and the Crafters were more interested in the deeds of past Mastercrafters.
That was an issue with the Oldtimers, yes - they were from an era where they were all-but-venerated and where it was the norm to give dragonriders massive concessions because of their work. And after the average person not having any interacting with dragonriders since the Oldtimers timed it and bopped on ahead to the 9th Pass, it was a custom that got forgotten (because Benden couldn't really enforce it on their own).
One of the things I'm wondering (and which doesn't seem to have been addressed already) is: what happened to the whole civilization that the colonists left behind? Having a ship come in with people intending to check on how this colony is doing is...well, it'd be similar to AIVAS being found. But why hasn't anyone come by to check on Pern? Like, canonically, there was one ship that responded to the distress beacon (which did get set off, despite a lot of arguments over it) and it picked up one family that had refused to leave the Southern Continent and...never actually checked to see if there was anyone over on Northern. Despite, afair, the dad of the family going "everyone else fucked off to the Northern continent and the idiots are probably dead" - the ship never actually went over to check. (Apparently they were...on a deadline of some sort? Anne did that with the survey team, too, to explain why they rushed through things.)
This isn't me trying to go "we need to address that in-game", just - it's bugging me at the moment, because what the heck. In-game, it's probably easy enough to resolve with a handwave of "there was some sort of crisis shortly after the colony ship left, and the records were lost, no one remembers that Pern's out there".
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