What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    though part of that issue is that people don't go full on and just put down shit like the tall man

    which tells me nothing about this character

    but BLOODCRUSH THE STAR EATER does tell me things about this character

    Like how he eats fucking stars and possibly destroys worlds.

    The question is "how do you do that in not a fantasy or sci-fi setting" however. The answer is still likely "Get on actual character traits besides height or race god dammit".
     
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  2. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    And then there's Brandon Sanderson, writing a series in first-person with a protagonist who speaks in the WORST metaphors he could come up with. Like "A brick made of porridge." :::PPP
     
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  3. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    a brick made of porridge sounds like something that dagda would say

    or at the very least be happy about before eating
     
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  4. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Bonus points if every man in the scene is the same height.
     
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  5. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    AHHHHHH

    the pinkette

    AAAAAAAAAAH
     
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  6. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    (Another Reckoners metaphor: "They looked so dangerous, like alligators. Really fast alligators wearing black. Ninja alligators.")

    Hair color epithets are the worst. YOI Badfic Friend ran into one a while back that used "the raven" to refer to someone with black hair; we decided he'd literally turned into a bird.
     
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  7. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    to be fair i would be afraid of ninja alligators
     
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  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    (...of course, I say that, and then I go to work on a fanfic I'm writing where the viewpoint character spends most of the story referring to the rest of the cast as things like "the black-haired soldier," but in my defense this is because he doesn't remember their names.)
     
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  9. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Metaphors are cool; metaphors in every single sentence are just confusing, and alliteration rapidly gets irritating if overused. "Members of the timbered community" is really, really overwrought for some steps that are of no consequence at all in the story; it could work for, say, buildings or trees in a location that is important enough to need to be vividly described. Problem with slopping on the purple prose for everything is the same as the problem with EMPHASISING EVERYTHING! Eventually the reader stops reacting and is bored by the time you get to something which is actually important.
     
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  10. winterykite

    winterykite Non-newtonian genderfluid

    I remember "the bluenette", used for a male character.

    (i confess to having characters who refer to other exclusively in epiphets, mostly descriptors, and one of them simply can't be assed to learn the actual names.)

    eta: i thought 'members of the timbered community' was hilarious, and i got a character or two who speak like that, but they're also loopy. and not always the narrator.
     
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  11. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    I think it puts points in the "bad writer" column that at least one of us can't tell what's going on in the original author's version.

    I don't see anything in the example passage that indicates that the stairs are actually giving out from underneath the narrator- just that they were there yesterday and they're on the ground now.
     
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  12. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I thought it was hilarious too, but I don't think the author thought it was, and that's the problem.

    Oh, oh! I found a published writer who comes up with even sillier plot contrivances than your average marriage law fanfic, and now I want to see these in fics! TW for ableism on the author's part:

    It's making me think of Carlton Mellick III who deliberately writes ridiculously off-the-wall shit.
     
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  13. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I was mostly trying to illustrate how much easier it is to pad by going into more detail than by cramming more fancy language in, but yeah, that too. (Though it is possible the summary is wrong, since all we have is that one quote and not the whole context.)
     
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  14. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    My Handmaid does this for a variety of reasons, and exceptionally bland epithets at that. One, is that she meets so many people over the time jumps, most of whom just end up dead that there's really no point in it. Two, it just makes the job more depressing than it really needs to be. This is our fucking 9 to 5 we're not getting paid for for all eternity. No point in getting weepy over whoever the fuck. At most you are The Tall Man In Yellow and you will fucking deal with it. This I think is fine. It's a matter of whys and what you do with it. You're going to piss off someone or other with how you write anyway so may as well say fuck it and do what you like.
     
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  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    also i again must moan about the lack of poetry fic

    like there's definitely stuff out there but there just ain't enough of it darnit

    At least I can find that poetry prose stuff that some people find irritating as fuck? Which I'm not sure how to describe. Something like this fucking thing I wrote, I guess? It's not a terribly good example of it but it's a sort of thing I like a lot. A sort of prose that's very, very concerned with repetition, alliteration, and other things that are used to greater degrees in certain poetry styles. These make for very fun pieces I feel, especially when they're mostly just mood and tone based things. Well that and a joy of saying it. Even if I can't entirely comprehend what's being written in terms of what is happening when, if I can feel the mood and I can get this lovely feel in my mouth when I say the words I'm in love.
     
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  16. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    But Glasses hates her the very best.
     
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  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    that fuck

    and his glasses
     
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  18. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    Spades fuckin' everywhere, man.
     
  19. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    ... protip, if your summary reads like it was written by a neural network, and does not specifically advertise your story as having been written by a neural network, I am probably not going to read further.

    (this is probably mean, but this example was pretty egregious. Punctuation, people! Use it!)
     
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  20. Verily

    Verily surprised Xue Yang peddler

    Coming from the other direction: if your story was written by a neural network, please advertise that fact prominently so I'll know to read it.
     
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