What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Yunno how in TFA Kylo asks three separate authority figures for guidance three separate times in his like thirty minutes of screen time*? Can someone please explain to me how people watch that and get the impression that he's some super independent, decisive, leaderly type, who doesn't take orders from nobody and cares not one iota what people think about him?

    *first asking granddad's skull to teach him how to be evil enough to do whatever the heck Kylo think Vader left unfinished, then asking Snoke to help him get the map from Rey after she scared him off + attributing his own metal fortitude to Snoke's guidence, and then asking Han for help on the bridge.
     
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  2. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    re: film/theater discussion: it's a trope name, sites like tvtropes and allthetropes use it

    although a few tropes having different names on those sites as opposed to their technical terms, like 'narm' which iirc other contexts call bathos, although tvtropes distinguishes between bathos as intentional and narm as unintentional humour.
     
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  3. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Rereading the epic torture-porn shit I requested and got on the kinkmeme years ago and depressed because I've been trying to write origfic smut for sale and nothing I write will ever have the same gut-wrenching emotional impact and so many of the themes in it are so specific to Homestuck so I can't file the serial numbers off and also I abandoned its sequel years ago and I really REALLY want to finish it but don't have the spoons and I feel like no ending we write is going to be good enough D: D: D:
     
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  4. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Is it okay to have abandoned it for years and then go back to it? People, please help me to do it. I keep feeling like shit for not doing it and too embarrassed about having left it this long to go do it.
     
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  5. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Man, every time I've idly checked back on a fav fic long abandoned and see a new update, it's such a fucking delight. I don't think it's anything to be ashamed of, either having abandoned it for a while or coming back to it, and I don't think anyone would complain about new content just cause it's been a bit. Well, some people might, but they're dickheads. If you wanna keep working on it, I'd say go for it, my dude.
     
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  6. Nobody's Home

    Nobody's Home I'm a Greg Coded Tom Girl

    The dickheads are shitters because neww chapters on abandoned things?? That would be like, a holy shit moment in a good way
    It would be swell is what I'm saying :P
     
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  7. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I just feel like whatever I do it won't be right with what I've already done for it and it'll disappoint people. I guess anything is better than nothing? I feel like I can't make the ending worth it.

    Fanfic has also ruined me for my attempts at Kindle porn. I want to make well-developed well-described unusual characters and pairings, but everyone's telling me those won't sell because people want bland Bella-esque self-insertable characters in stuff they buy.
     
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  8. Kemmasandi

    Kemmasandi Optimus Prime's disapproving eyebrows

    There was a really good fic I started reading in 2007 or so, unknowingly just a couple of months after the author burned out on it. It languished in the depths of ff.net for eight years or so before one day I decided to go look at the archive for this old fandom of mine and holy shit, there it is on the front page of the archive, being updated again!! And you know what, I could feel the difference between what I was reading and what I could remember, but almost all of it was down to me having better reading comprehension and technical writing skills. It was still freaking great, and I marathoned all the updated chapters that same night.

    Also, keep in mind that the readers don’t know the ending you’re imagining. If you think you can’t manage the ending in your head, have a go anyway, because they’re not going to know the difference! You can always write a draft and sit on it for a while, in case better inspiration comes along.
     
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  9. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    There was a really good fic I read a long time ago. Then it stopped updating one day, as the author turned to other projects.

    A long time later, I checked again, and discovered that not only had it started updating again, but that the author had improved significantly. I check for updates every day-the author writes roughly a thousand words of it most days, and chapter length varies-I've seen a 4.8k chapter immediately following a 27k megachapter, although most chapters seem to be more around the 6-8 k mark.
     
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  10. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    The author has, however, implied that he does not want to write a megachapter again-but sometimes chapters come in sets, usually ones with cliffhangers at the end or 'movie chapters' like the set of 4 where the main characters had to rescue demigods that managed the climate of a major climatic point in the ocean from a bounty-hunter kidnapper and her rich brother, who had a flying fortress that he'd designed to catch demigods with. So you don't know if the author's been unwell or if he's writing A Really Big Chapter or if he's decided to rewrite chapter 1 like the did to the prologue or if he's just taking a long time with this chapter for other reasons or if he's finished the chapter and is writing the rest of the set to upload all at once with a note like "This is the second of four chapters today".
     
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  11. YggiDee

    YggiDee Well-Known Member

    There's a reason I subscribe to old, seemingly abandoned fics. Like 99% percent of the time they're unfinished forever and I am at peace with that, but once in a blue moon I get an email that the weird Zutara AU from 2009 has risen from the dead again and its Double Christmas in my heart.
     
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  12. Lizardlicks

    Lizardlicks Friendly Neighborhood Lizard

    Hhh just read a fic that had a good hook but then ended abruptly with no closure and it's a one shot. Now I'm writing the other half of the fic in my head whyyyy.
     
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  13. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    A gripe about my own writing: when you write relatively short chapters as a rule because you tend to be concise, and then you write nearly an average chapter's worth of what amounts to shameless smut...solely to set up the rest of the chapter.

    Also when you had to write the smut to set things up but it bumps your fic's rating up to an E and you're scared people will be upset, because it was at least mostly SFW save for swearing up until then. :( Do you think I'll be letting my readers down with that?
     
  14. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    It's more than okay, as others have said! I know a ton of people would be absolutely thrilled. <3
     
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  15. Lizardlicks

    Lizardlicks Friendly Neighborhood Lizard

    Possible solution: warning at the beginning of the chapter, and note at the end of the chapter summarizing the plot points for anyone who would like to skip it?
     
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  16. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    I definitely plan on warning heavily at the beginning, especially since there's also some very potentially-triggering content later in the chapter. I might do the end-of-chapter notes with a summary as well, that's a good idea.

    I'm just...worried I'll alienate people, I guess? This is by far the most popular thing I've ever written, and I'm an insecure fuck who wants it to stay popular, basically?
     
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  17. Lizardlicks

    Lizardlicks Friendly Neighborhood Lizard

    Some people might drop off, but you'll also pick up new readers. I doubt there will be any significant change in viewership overall.
     
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  18. Pukjie Ainsel

    Pukjie Ainsel procrastinating overthinker

    I understand that many people have stronger fictional incest squicks than I do, but I'm really surprised that third cousins is closely related enough for the 'Alternate Universe - The Blossoms and The Coopers Are Not Related' tag to be a thing.
     
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  19. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Wow, what the fuck, that barely qualifies as blood relatives??

    Like, admittedly I have a "cousin" who is more distantly related than that (we met online and then years later SURPRISE WE'RE DISTANT RELATIVES), but...that's because we decided it'd be cool if we were cousins and that was kind of just how we were? But I still don't count the crush I used to have on her as actually incestuous.
     
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  20. Toaster

    Toaster Active Member

    I wonder if it's an attempt to dodge antis. Given the way they've expanded the definition of pedophilia, I could see being worried that writing that relationship could also become ammo.
     
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