What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Also looks like I gotta be the one providing for all of a ship again. Dammit. First I look at the art and comics and so much is stuff I've already seen and now I find the fic archive on Ao3 for touhou has...none of it. Like at all. There isn't even any ancient ass ff.net fics transferred over to the archive for kanasana. It is just.

    Blank.

    Fuck Kanako herself only has like 3 pages worth of fics. Many of them she's just a minor player it looks like too.

    i will build this house all on my own

    i will make the moriya shrine from the ground up i swear to fucking god ao3
     
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  2. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    What's weirdest to me is when for some reason the genderbend is thrown in on top of another fic idea that stands alone perfectly well. Seems to be especially common in the Naruto fandom.
     
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  3. LumiLapin

    LumiLapin Bad Bad Bun

    WAIT I FUCKED UP my girlfriend pointed out that Luna is obviously Cedric Diggory and then I realized that Luna is definitely, 100% Sania Yeagre
     
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  4. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    That reincarnation thing reminds me of an art that had Twelve from Zankyou no Terror reincarnate as Yamaguchi from Haikyuu because Yamaguchi's jersey number is twelve. Which is fine, I appreciate the creativity. But like, also disorienting. It was a very serious fanart and the two series are very different.
     
  5. keltka

    keltka the green and brown one

    tfw you get a comment that reads like someone's either trying to A. sound like they know your entire backstory/plans/characterization for a fic, or B. "subtly" tell you how you should be setting up your entire backstory/plans/characterization for a fic
    lmfao. no.
     
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  6. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    ... whyyyyy do you guys keep marking fics shipping Eddie Brock/Venom as M/M? that ship is M/Tentacle Space Goo my dudes.

    I fully fail to comprehend the reason for this.

    I mean. I understand if you don’t like het, OK, fine, except in what universe can a relationship between a human man and a tentacle space goo who has given no indication that it posesses or even understands the concept of a gender identity be considered “het unless marked M/M?”

    ... And I guess I’d understand marking for anatomy in cases where the goo shapeshifts into a human-ish form with obviously human-male bits... or for identity in ones where we are specifically informed that the space-goo considers himself a “him...” but like. They’re mostly not? They’re mostly tentacle-space-goo form Venom with “it” or “they” pronouns.

    ... Am I wrong to be as annoyed with this as I am?

    (F-shaped and meh-gendered over here. I dunno if I’m projecting, or just super protective of fictional aliens not having to adhere to binary human gender BS.)

    (mumblegrumble.)
     
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  7. Everett

    Everett local rats so small, so tiny

    hmmmb

    i think its just people wanting an easy label and they decide theyre gonna use he pronouns for venom (sometimes they go the extra step of having venom say he more or less borrowed/copied eddie brock's gender bc symbiotes dont do gender but it looked neat or w/e)

    but yeah more people should consider the "other" or whatever ship tag for m/genderless alien
     
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  8. Morven

    Morven In darkness be the sound and light

    and no matter what Eddie/venom-symbiote isn't het bc why would it be
     
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  9. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    Yeah, I do get it when they’re using “he” pronouns for Venom, except, like I said, a lot of them aren’t.

    Thinking about it, I noticed the ones marked M/M seem to cluster higher on the list when you filter for “kudos.” I wonder if it’s that users filter for M/M and, like, forget about it, and some authors know this and are taking advantage for hits?

    *edit* Actually, I should check again and see if my memory is accurate. I might be mentally jumbling the fics together. (Seems like everyone came out of the movie with roughly the same idea... well, the ones who write fic, anyway.)
     
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  10. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    The "any similarity to real persons living or dead etc" disclaimer doesn't work on what is clearly and openly a real person fanfic.
     
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  11. Lizardlicks

    Lizardlicks Friendly Neighborhood Lizard

    Venom already has a preferred pronoun. Venom uses we.
     
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  12. Morven

    Morven In darkness be the sound and light

    "We" referring to human plus symbiote? But does Venom ever talk about the symbiote alone? Or is that simply nonsensical to its form of life?
     
  13. Loq

    Loq rotating like a rotisserie chicknen

    Venom-the-symbiote is at least capable of understanding (and using) first person singular while bonded with a human; there's a conversation where they call their host "my [venom's] ride".

    edit: and also some backstory talk in singular, since Eddie at the time of the movie has never been to Venom's home planet...

    edit the second (it's 6am and I am incapable of complete thoughts): Another symbiote, Riot, is referred to as "he". Riot's host at the time is male, but Venom seems to be talking specifically about symbiote-Riot ("he's got shit you've never seen"). Still no judgement on symbiote-Venom's gender, but it does seem possible for them to have one of their own.
     
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  14. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Not exactly a gripe, but fanfic-relevant and I'm curious; a friend of mine said that in her Humanstuck fics, the trolls' names are supposed to be placeholders for human names which fit their setting, unchanged so the readers don't have to mentally translate. This really never occurred to me; I always assumed human AUs for characters with weird names took place in a world in which those names were normal. Has anyone else actually thought about it this in-depth, and if so, which option did you go with?
     
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  15. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    For anime crossovers I just grit my teeth and imagine there's a large Japanese immigrant population in the crossover's setting that somehow has no other effect on the plot or worldbuilding
     
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  16. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah, I always just kind of handwave it as "these names are normal here for reasons."
     
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  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    I just handwave it with them having their canon names. I decided ultimately that it wasn't worth the mental hassle to figure out. The one time I gave the trolls 'human' names was in a rebirth centered fic, where the point was that they WEREN'T the trolls. Merely people reborn from them.
     
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  18. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    At some point i got real fucking persnickety about characterization in Supernatural fics, which is a pretty back asswards way to feel, I think. I just. Hate so many really common character interpretations and tropes.
     
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  19. Everett

    Everett local rats so small, so tiny

    lately i don't want to read things where a character has any sort of crisis about their sexuality, i just want characters to be comfortably bi or pan in fic if they have a canon het love interest

    gently somersault over the "But im Straight" part, i'm happy to read a character being in denial about their feelings as long as it's not orientation related
     
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  20. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    *still kicking around the Venom tag on AO3*

    *filtering for length cause I want some plot gdi*

    (srsly is like, every fic producer that went to see this movie walked out of the theater, raised a finger and went, “OK but like,” and every single one was thinking the same goddamn thing) (not complaining abt content, just monotony)

    *notes a summary that seems to promise exploration of the ethical implications of becoming romantically entangled with an ambiguously-sexual alien that’s currently rooming with your spleen*

    *interest piqued*

    ... Primary and Most Importantest of Moral Quandary: Venom is only 18!!!?!?!! SCANDAL!

    *... back-click. disapoint.*

    (Seriously, it was traveling through deep space on what’s implied to be some kind of colony ship, it’s either 800 or it’s, like, 3. 18 is not A Thing for aliens.)
     
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