What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Acey

    Acey same old sad soliloquy

    i would very much like to hear this story
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  2. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    my parents have a franklin stove, and when i was a kid i knocked my mom's little lion figurine into the fire. i figured i'd just find it when the fire was out. but it was winter and we were using the stove for heat, because the central heating couldn't keep up, so they kept feeding the fire and stirring up the coals. by the time it was finally burned down enough for me to fish for the lion amongst the ashes, it was a vaguely lion shaped puddle.
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  3. vegacoyote

    vegacoyote dog metaphores and pedanticism

    ... dude. the blackened denarii can teleport. the Vatican locks them up in Impenetrable Holy Vaults With No Keys every chance they get, and the fuckers don’t stay put for any longer than they feel like humoring the clergy. like hell they’d be harmed by something so obvious as melting down if it hasn’t been done already.
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  4. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

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  5. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    The Dresdenverse does sometimes allow for very, uh, brute force solutions to supernatural problems (RIFP,
    that skinwalker Morgan baited into an active nuclear test site
    ), just... probably not to that particular problem.
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
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  6. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    i was misinformed by fanfic. :P

    i'm still gonna use the solar/salt method in something. maybe jack saturday.
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  7. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    i was always under the impression that the coins don't as much teleport as they tempt their way out of those vaults by virtue of well, being The Coins
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  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    They at the very least can be summoned, which is why Harry has to deal with Lash as much as he does when he buried the coin a dozen feet deep under several silver circles and filled the hole in with concrete.
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
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  9. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    but that was after he's already grabbed the coin and gotten a copy as a live-in. it's, as mentioned in text, not Lasciel herself, not truly. and she already had that 'runner' in his head, like an extremely worrying strawberry plant
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  10. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    Maybe the Dresden debate should continue somewhere else? I just unwittingly stumbled on to a number of spoilers for books I keep meaning to read.
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  11. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Oops, sorry. Dresden Files thread is over here.
  12. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    can i just say i really like this
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  13. GlassesBlu

    GlassesBlu Spectre of Madness

    IZ fanfic: theyre starting highschool now
    Me: cool
    IZ fanfic: GIR is broken and gone now
    Me: excuse me???

    Cmonn Zim wouldnt want to get rid of gir
    1 he likes having a minion
    2 it seems that he likes gir
    3 he can probably tech him up
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  14. OtherCat

    OtherCat a being of mysterious happenstance

    Names have an upper case letter in the beginning, author. (At least in English? It might be different for other languages?) Why do you keep writing it as lower case in the middle of sentences, and at the ends of quotations marks?
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  15. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    because they're using a text editor that automatically capitalizes the beginning of sentences, 'i', and perhaps recognized proper names, so they keep forgetting that particular name isn't in the editor's database.
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  16. OtherCat

    OtherCat a being of mysterious happenstance

    I think it has less to do with "proof of woked ness" and more a commentary on readers who have a "default is white" bias. (there was that situation where twitter fandom was shocked, shocked I tell you that a canon character was black--I think it was Hunger Games?) A writer whose writing I like also does "disabled original female character" and so on. I definitely feel (comfortable?) when I see "POC character." Diversity is good, representation matters, Ursula K. LeGuin felt she had to gently introduce the concept of the main character in the Earthsea books being brown, and I feel this led to stupid things later when it came to (I think it was a tv movie?) later on. So you get "character of color," as a tag.

    As an aside of what was probably also an aside since I went off to talk about Ursula K. Leguin, another reason I don't mind "character of color" as a tag is because I feel the writer is going to possibly make a better effort at not being a complete moronic twit? I say this as someone who deeply despises certain Angel the Series fics featuring Gunn. They wrote him so badly, and so offensively I would rage-quit certain fics. (No I don't remember the names or the authors. This is probably a good thing.)
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  17. OtherCat

    OtherCat a being of mysterious happenstance

    Oooh. I honestly couldn't figure out where they were going wrong. I should have thought of that. And it was so consistent, too, like she hadn't proof read it. :\
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  18. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    i think there must be a significant number of ficcers who are insecure in such a way that they post things as soon as they're finished and then don't dare to touch them, lest the Crippling Insecurity convince them to delete it or something. i sympathize, but it's hard to read stuff that has clearly not been given even a quick once-over.

    scrivener, which is what i mostly use, can be set to do auto-capitalizing of some things, and i usually have it on because hitting shift all the time hurts my poor swollen hands, but this results in a lot of lowercase names happening in the middle of sentences. the difference is that i give fanfics a full second draft, and original fic at least a third, before i post it anywhere but my blog. :P
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  19. Verily

    Verily a very ineffective hitman

    This probably goes in the “you can never win” category. I dislike overly enthusiastic content warnings, even for things I actually find upsetting.

    It’s the difference between putting “mild gore” in the tags and having a paragraph in the summary that explains that there is gore, but it’s not too bad and it’s over quickly! The tag will probably let me decide without too much fuss whether I feel like reading this in light of the mild gore. The summary paragraph communicates to me that “mild gore” is one of the most prominent features of this story. I will probably spend the entire story waiting for the mild gore and then waiting for it to be over and then evaluating the extent to which I think the description of the severity and duration of the gore was accurate. If the story isn’t actually mainly about mild gore, the summary has completely changed how the story is perceived. And you know what, this may well be exactly what some people want and need. It just doesn’t work for me.

    Some people put more information about the warnings in the notes at the bottom, which I personally think is pretty ideal. Anything that’s occupying descriptive space at the top of the story, in my opinion, tends to read as if it’s a pivotal point for readers approaching the story, because if you have pivotal information you need to convey about the premise or setting before the reader begins, that’s where it goes.

    I think it wouldn’t bother me so much if content warnings weren’t so often phrased as universal harmful bad things even when they’re key aspects of porn. That’s such a mixed message. Am I supposed to enjoy this or not? If we’re not here to have a good time, I’m not sure I’m comfortable with this anymore. Regardless of whether the fictional people are having a good time during these fictional events, if it’s hard to tell if the author believes the readers are supposed to be enjoying the porn, that’s kinda weird. I’m not entirely sure how to feel about this.

    I don’t think authors have it easy, or are intentionally trying to harsh anyone’s buzz. Unless it’s marked as “choose not to warn” or a lack of content warnings is communicated in some other prominent way, I think it’s better to warn too much than not enough. The way most fanfic is presented these days, I think readers have a reasonable expectation that they’ll have a pretty good idea of what they’re getting into before they start reading unless told otherwise, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I do sometimes think I miss the magic of blindly stumbling onto a story that goes exactly where I most wished, but not enough that I wanna start reading things blindly again. I don’t actually miss magic that relies on me being at least a little disappointed most of the time to make it feel special. That pretty much sucks. My ideas about what constitutes too much information aren’t the same as they used to be, or even necessarily the same for fanfic as other media.

    There’s still a quality sometimes of a warning paragraph that feels like a regrettable movie trailer that spoils the entire film. But it’s worse, like if the trailer was dead serious about how these are the parts of the movie that you’re going to find neutral at best because these are Known Bad Things, so the trailer hopes you’ll take care of yourself. Hello, yes. You just listed all my interests and told me to drink water and remember to seek psychiatric help. Thanks? I gotta be honest, I’m not feeling the love here.
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  20. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Things like that are why when I do warn about stuff in my fic it tends to just like a simple note at the top of a chapter. So like I'll put something like 'warning: cg/l' if that kink shows up in a particular poem. Then people know that content that is iffy enough that they may really not be into it is coming and they can skip it if they want. Granted, this works out as well as it does for me since I just write collections of poems at this point. So I can tag that shit easily without worrying that the reader would like lose key plot details or something.
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