What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Please do not refer to a penis as a "big lightsabre" unless you want me to scream in sympathetic pain at the thought of my genitals vaporising.
     
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  2. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Characters telling each other things they both already know for the benefit of the reader or an eavesdropper they don't know is there.
     
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  3. YggiDee

    YggiDee Well-Known Member

    Authors who 1) post their fics exclusively on Tumblr and 2) don't tag their fanfiction
     
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  4. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Having characters talk endlessly about how intelligent the protagonist is while the protagonist actually demonstrates all the intelligence and initiative of a rock.
     
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  5. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I know I went into the Pokemon tag looking for cursed content but I wasn't expecting cursed character tag piping.
    i hate this.png
     
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  6. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I've recently discovered a hazard of first-person perspective. See, the writer has to set up the upcoming danger so it doesn't come out of nowhere from the reader's perspective, but if you describe all the red flags in first person from the point of view of the person in danger, what it looks like is the character noticing all the danger signs and blithely doing the dangerous thing anyway, which... does not make the character look smart. I'm sure it can be done, but it can easily go wrong.
     
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  7. keltena

    keltena putting the fun in executive dysfunction

    ao3, の
     
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  8. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    idgi
     
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  9. Verily

    Verily a very ineffective hitman

    It looks very strange to me because it literally just says the equivalent of Ash's Pikachu in Japanese, but it's written with English characters and romanized to look good in English, not for accuracy to the Japanese. I would mainly write in English characters when talking in Japanese to people who understand Japanese for the benefit of bystanders who know no Japanese at all. Or laziness sometimes, but I still wouldn't leave off the extra u at the end even though it looks very silly, and definitely not in a tag.
     
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  10. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah, it's just an outgrowth of AO3's dubious handling of names from non-English works. As I hear it from people who were embroiled in the drama when it first became a thing, the style conventions were set by English-speakers who largely weren't in non-Western fandoms, and the significant volume of complaints from people who were were ignored. The intent was allegedly to foreground the original language instead of using English localizations as default, but it's an idea of how to do that that which was developed by English speakers with very little input from anyone else; for instance, I heard that a lot of the Chinese fandom didn't want them to put accents in anglicized Chinese words because it makes it much harder to search and it's not like you're writing it right anyway, but nope, you want cnovel fic, you can't look for Wei Wuxian from Modao Zushi, you have to look for Wèi Wúxiàn from Módào Zǔshī.

    I have friends in the Ace Attorney fandom, which is one of the ones where AO3's conventions make everything particularly bad, since every single character has a long punny name in both languages. If you go looking for the series in the alphabetical fandom list, it's not sorted with the first character as either 逆 (Japanese title) or A (English title) ; it's under G, for the English transliteration of the Japanese title. The almighty juggernaut ship used to be tagged "Mitsurugi Reiji/Naruhodou Ryuuichi | Miles Edgeworth/Phoenix Wright" so you could just look at one end of the tag to figure out what the actual pairing was, but a few years back the AO3 Gods decided that was unacceptable for some reason and changed it so both versions of a given character name were grouped together, resulting in nightmare tags like "Mitsurugi Reiji | Miles Edgeworth/Naruhodou Ryuuichi | Phoenix Wright" that take twice as long to parse.

    "Satoshi no Pikachu | Ash Ketchum's Pikachu" is just a particularly absurd example in a 2006 fansub "keikaku means plan" kind of way.
     
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  11. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    STOP

    TRYING

    TO MAKE YOUR WRITING

    LOOK LONGER

    BY MAKING A NEW PARAGRAPH

    FOR EVERY SENTENCE

    Thank you.
     
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  12. Verily

    Verily a very ineffective hitman

    Yes, that's exactly it. It looks like a tag made by and for English speakers who have decided to use Japanese, probably for aesthetic reasons. (ETA: Or to win an argument.)
     
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  13. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    This is kinda the fanfic equivalent of first world problems, but my group has too many ideas. Well, to be more specific, we've had so many ideas for character vignettes in a series loosely tied to a plot that the vignettes are way outrunning the plot points. If we squash the points together, we won't have space for the characters, and if we keep adding character scenes after we have no more plot ideas it's going to feel like loose ends and very much "and then what?" If we spread the plot points too thinly, it's gonna look like the characters are dilly-dallying. Kind of annoying to balance that.
     
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  14. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    And our attempts to work the timeline have completely collapsed. I think I'm gonna stick a note in the summary saying "timeline is incoherent, enjoy the stories and we might rework the timeline to not break everyone's brains at some later date".
     
  15. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Further hazard of first-person; you can't pull a "secretly a good guy" reveal for a character when we've already seen their thought process repeatedly bragging about how much they like torturing animals and look forward to committing murder. We're not buyin' it, dude.
     
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  16. BaseDeltaZero

    BaseDeltaZero Shitposting all night.

    Hey, he's a nice guy... except for all the animal torturing!

    (Alternatively a Snape-esque 'an absolutely terrible person... but on the right side.')
     
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  17. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    On behalf of a friend who's been tag-diving a fandom with a significant teenage audience and has groused to me about this like 4 times in the last week:
     
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  18. keltena

    keltena putting the fun in executive dysfunction

    She's extremely valid and I support her.
     
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  19. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Went browsing for goofy summaries and tags and encountered one that put detailed suicide talk in the summary.

    From the tags, that wasn't even what the fic was about.
     
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  20. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    So, the current political climate might be bringing weirdos out of the woodwork in fandom too. I got a comment today by someone who... I'm not sure if they were mad that we dared to suggest police could do bad things, or that we dared to suggest that police officers assaulting people was a bad thing.
     
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