What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. latitans

    latitans zounds, scoob

    I think it would be fair to say that the Harry Potter books (and JKR, if her twitter is anything to go by) have no cohesive theory of structural oppression

    See: the nonsensical reasons for secrecy; Ron being somehow More Oppressed than Hermione in the 6th book; the goblins; and of course the house elves
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  2. BaseDeltaZero

    BaseDeltaZero Shitposting all night.

    I mean, I kinda disagree with their thesis, you can pull it off if they're not too crazy powerful, and the circumstances are right. A large group of armed people can easily abuse someone who is physically superior to them. That said, it is not something that can be directly mapped to real world oppression. It is a different type of thing. A potentially interesting type of thing to write about, but like... Marvel's 'Mutants are a metaphor for LGBT people' kinda breaks down when you consider there are individual mutants who are an existential threat to humanity as a whole. In reality, there are no individual humans who are an existential threat to humanity by themselves, LGBT or otherwise.
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  3. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Oh, I could see it being done, yeah. It just requires a lot of thinking about to produce an answer to the question. For example, on Alternia, the people who can shoot fireballs from (in this case) their eyes aren't the only ones who have powers, and they're a lot more susceptible to being controlled by the powers that the higher castes have.
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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  4. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    The fics I've read that I liked went with the premise, it's hard to effectively hurt the people who can shoot fireballs from their eyeballs and whatnot themselves - but it's very easy to hurt their friends who can't shoot fireballs, or their children who haven't yet learned to shoot fireballs. It's hard to keep up 24/7 protection.

    From there it's easy to imagine that, over generations, the fireball shooters might be less and less willing to befriend or care about anyone but their own. More and more willing to isolate themselves and generalize the outside world, to praise their own strengths and insult the outsiders' weaknesses.
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  5. bornofthesea670

    bornofthesea670 Well-Known Member

    it is obnoxiously hard to find fix-it fic for GoT where Jon is not shipped with Dany. Just let the poor man be a Stark like he always wanted to be, and figure something else out for their love interests.
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  6. bornofthesea670

    bornofthesea670 Well-Known Member

    in other news one of the fics has Drogon as male, Visyrion (i cannot spell valyrian names to save my life, fight me) as female and Rhaegal using they/them pronouns. the author explains it as dragons not really having defined genders, Dany just go by what she feels, which...ok sure. maybe because drogon is bigger and stronger and vis is characterized as more affectionate, and Dany's going by Gender roles. Rhaegal's gender so far seems to be Chaos and Stubborn, at least when they are younger. remind me of a draconic Arya.

    anyway, someone in the comments was like "lol what, did Rhaegal go to ~college~ or something?"

    the wording was different but that was the vibe i got lol. leave our enby dragons alone bro
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2021 at 1:53 AM
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  7. BaseDeltaZero

    BaseDeltaZero Shitposting all night.

    Yeah, that's... definitely something you can do, and it's a reasonable and justified way the Seperation could have occured. I would have actual sympathy for the wizards!

    Another thing you could do in the general 'oppressed mages' category is mages as, I dunno, Kulaks. They were part of the ruling class or at least priveliged*, then conditions changed, a revolution occurred, and now they're resented/persecuted...

    *How do you spell this, anyways.
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  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

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