What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Oh you learn that there are actually 4 th sounds in Arabic class. You know. For fun.
     
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  2. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Meanwhile, French kinda applies the Kintsugi school of rules to pronunciation and grammar.
     
  3. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    French has like 17 vowels. 17. Not 17 vowels and diphthongs.

    Just vowels.

    17.
     
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  4. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I just know English has the voiced and unvoiced ones. "thy"/"thigh"
     
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  5. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Arabic has voiced and unvoiced, but it also has two emphatic versions of the voiced and unvoiced ones. There's no real one agreed upon way to transliterate Arabic, but some of them get written as "dh" and "zh" and such at times.

    This is made more complicated by the fact that things like the dhaal become pronounced as z in many dialects.
     
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  6. winterykite

    winterykite Non-newtonian genderfluid

    i have some language nerdery to share!
    there's languages, for example finnish, which have a "k" and a "kh" sound and they're actually different! most western "k"s are actually more like "kh"s and if you have a language which explicitly has a "k" and a "kh" sound the distinguishment makes sense.
     
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  7. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    I don't know anyone who doesn't regularly make spelling or grammar errors in French. Including native speakers.
     
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  8. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Oh there's definitely languages that have a k versus kh. Which is my point.

    If you aren't going to really describe why you bothered writing kh then don't fucking do it. Because otherwise you have people like me who have studied Pali, Finnish, Arabic, and several other languages to greater or lesser degrees.

    who are just pissed at you for having no logic behind your fantasy names

    Well maybe if the academie du francais got off its fucking high horse and just accepted that it lost this war many years back...
     
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  9. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Also, even the Wikipedia page for French vowels managed to mess up one of the examples. Unless I've been pronouncing "ai" wrong my whole life, which, at this point, might not even be surprising.
     
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  10. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Oh, don't worry, they're got other stuff to do. They're going to fuck up history now. A few Presidential candidates want them to rewrite textbooks to fit "the national narrative". Fun times.
     
  11. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    @LadyNighteyes, for a couple posts there, I got really confused and thought your first name was literally "Welsh," and I was having such a hard time figuring out why so many people would struggle with it.

    (though I did have one friend, native English speaker, but with parents who were native Spanish and Arabic speakers, and she could not for the life of her pronounce one of our teacher's names. It was Mrs. Thorpe, and my friend pronounced it Thor-up, and she couldn't get that r and p together, even when she was trying to do it. I always wondered what gave her that quirk. On the other hand, I went the better part of a year without even noticing she did the thing, but when I went to Ireland and people pronounced film as fillum, it rendered the word completely unrecognizable to me)
     
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  12. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    God fucking dammit la academie
     
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  13. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I'd probably get fewer strange mispronunciations that way but just as many questions. :::PPP
     
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  14. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    In Quebec the attitude towards L'Academie has been mostly
    you make us try bro

    which means ironically there are fewer english words in quebecoi french. i think
     
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  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Oh my god really. Yesssss. YESSSSS. MY THEORY ON WHAT LACADEMIE'S SHIT HAS PROVEN ACTUALLY A THING. KIND OF MAYBE.

    Which is that their trying to snobbishly force things is playing into French French's shit going so off course from what it wants.
     
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  16. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Ah, name mispronunciations.

    My given name has two actual pronunciations and at least one common mispronunciation that's entered the mainstream. The pronunciation I use is the German Mennonite one, which has a silent letter but the initial letter is pronounced as it usually would be in English. (There are a few fictional characters I can name off the top of my head who have the same name pronounced the same way, actually. This does not stop people from mispronouncing it constantly, usually as the common mispronunciation but occasionally as the other technically-correct pronunciation.)

    And my chosen IRL name is super fucking common--Anna--but people pronounce it AW-nuh all the time, even though ANN-uh is a much more common pronunciation for that spelling, at least among English speakers. I'd blame Frozen, but people did it a lot long before that movie came out, so who even knows. It also gets misspelled as Ana a lot, despite Anna being, again, more common among English speakers, I think. Like, in this case both spellings and both pronunciations are valid, but I use both the more common spelling and the more common pronunciation...and people still fuck it up a lot.

    (For the record, also, I pronounce Acey as AY-see, with the emphasis on the first syllable. I've had a surprising number of people pronounce it ay-SEE, which doesn't sound right to me, but it's not like it's a common name, so...)
     
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  17. valenstyne

    valenstyne Went out for cigarettes, never came back

    My name is from Greek mythology, but not any of the parts of Greek mythology that make it into pop culture, so no one has any idea what the hell it it or how to say it. (Which is odd, because it's basically spelled phonetically.) Thanks, nerd parents.

    And to make this fanfic-related, when naming an OC please try to follow the naming conventions of the canon to some degree. If everyone in canon has a relatively common name for their language/setting/time period, don't give your character a name that looks like the cat walked across your keyboard just to make them stand out. Please. I'm begging you.
     
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  18. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I remember someone complaining about how fics set in America always have OCs named Sakura and ones set in Japan always have ones named Dave.
     
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  19. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Dave is such a poisoned name for me. Like, no other Homestuck human's name is so intrinsically Homestuck in my head, just Dave. Dave is always Dave in my head. Just pretending to be another dude named Dave in another series for some obscure goof. Awful.
     
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  20. witchknights

    witchknights Bold Enchanter Defends The Fearful

    I can't say my own name in english, and it's Marianne. when i try it always sounds like mary anne, with a space in the middle, and idk how to not make it sound like it has the space in the middle.


    this is from original writing, not fanfic, but i want to make a callout post for myself; in this thing i'm writing everyone has normal common names, except the one dude named argentum aurum <normal surname>, but there are reasons for that name and it's pointed in-text how ridiculous it sounds. so i can, obviously, kind of stand this when it's done in a tongue-in-cheek thing in fanfic, like those comedy ones that like to hang lampshades on canon ridiculousness.
     
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