What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Starcrossedsky

    Starcrossedsky Burn and Refine

    it's the "martial arts studies come in" and the "took a punch to the forehead" that do it for me.
     
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  2. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    I honestly miss Troper Tales sometimes, specifically because they were so awful.
     
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  3. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    fucking saaaaame
    i used to laugh my ass off at those for hours
     
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  4. applechime

    applechime "well, you know, a very — a very crunchy person."

    I AM A GRINCH AND MY AO3 BLACKLIST GROWS EVER LONGER!!!

    look. look. i know some people are just starting out. i know self-indulgent self-insert 'ordinary teen girl is the most important person in the universe and all the guys love her' fic is not hurting anyone. i know that some people are straight and will accordingly write straight stories, even if the characters are in a gay relationship in canon. i know thinking thoughts like 'who the fuck let these ff.net gremlins into my beautiful home' is unkind and uncharitable

    BUT I HAAAAAAATE IT!!!! >:( grump grump grump
     
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  5. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    A friend of mine was complaining to me about a fic which suddenly and with no warning dropped a line about someone's parents having tied their hands behind their back with electrical tape and never mentioned it again. In the middle of a sex scene, to boot. We were both like, "I really, really hope that author realizes that isn't normal."
     
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  6. Verily

    Verily surprised Xue Yang peddler

    If it's not your kid there is no earthly reason that you should have to put the green scribble on your fridge and declare it a Very Good SpongeBob unless you honestly enjoy the rendering. Just like, refrain from going out of your way to intentionally shame the artist on unreasonable grounds such as overall composition and fine motor skills and even the vaguest resemblance to SpongeBob and you're absolutely a model citizen.
     
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  7. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    This is a silly thing to be annoyed by, but...
    Public gang-rape scenes where the attackers feel the need to remove all of their own clothing. My reasons are both a power thing and a practicality thing. Nudity = loss of power in my head and it seems somehow weird if the attacker totally strips, which I know is very YMMV. More importantly, since they're in public what happens if someone walks in on them or attempts rescue? They're almost invariably in situations where that's a possibility. Just unbutton and at least keep your damn weapon-belts on!
     
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  8. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Why would you do that kind of thing in public, it seems like a fast track to an arrest...
     
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  9. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    By "public" I guess I mean semi-public - like, not in a shopping centre or something. The instance I was thinking of was in a forest, so nobody uninvolved actually present but nothing preventing people not far off from finding it.
     
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  10. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    ...doing it in a forest also seems like bad idea, what about bugs or inconveniently located rocks/mud/whatever.
     
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  11. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    The appeal is that it being public depowers the victim even more. So it's not just "We've power over you and you can do nothing about it" but it's "We've power over you and you can do nothing about it and no one else in the vicinity is going to help you". Things like forests have a sort of "This is so large and so sparsely populated that there's no way in hell people are going to find and help you". There's also a certain sort of spontaneity bonus that things get. Removing clothes during this, to me, removes the spontaneity bonus so we've lost vital bits of power and humiliation fuel.

    Why.

    For me at least. I suppose I can see getting entirely naked for such a thing resorting in more power because now the situation has gotten just that much more absurdly weighed in the rapists' favor.

    As for the inconvenience thing...Realities of the inconveniences of the settings just aren't really thought of at all by me. Which is probably occurring with people who like the getting entirely naked thing. No time to think of how this wouldn't work in reality we're hard.

    but then i speak as a fetishist and have no idea if the people writing this shit are and just making guesses so who even knows
     
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  12. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the spontaneity might also be an issue in my reaction. I also can't help but think the attackers are generally characters who wouldn't want to be totally naked in front of each other - vulnerability issue again. And really I just can't help but think "this is usually the point in a non-porn fic where the victim's allies swoop in and save them, why wouldn't you at least keep your sword belt on?" I know in this type of fic they probably aren't going to swoop in and save them, but the characters don't know that and have no reason to be so careless.
     
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  13. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Pff. Makes sense yeah. The spontaneity thing is my main issue but I can definitely see how that would kill the vibe too. Just I get that the people into this probably aren't thinking about that concern and more just WOW THIS IS HOT.
     
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  14. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    My problem is probably that I read Dead Dove fetish fic more as horror than as masturbatory material. I'm not distracted in that way and insist on picking holes in the logic.
     
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  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Yeaaaap. Makes sense.
     
  16. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    I really don't like fics that gender MK, Napstablook, Chara, or Frisk.

    Chara and Frisk both canonically are referred to only by neutral pronouns, including by their family. They also, if you subscribe to the Charrator theory (which makes by far the most sense), both go into Papyrus's room without considering the NO GIRLS ALLOWED, NO BOYS ALLOWED, PAPYRUS ALLOWED sign relevant.

    Napstablook and MK are also both only referred to by neutral pronouns. Napstablook has family who use only neutral pronouns for them, but MK is somewhat more ambiguous...except Toby Fox explicitly said in the PDF version of the artbook that using gendered pronouns for MK and Napstablook was due to typos, so according to Word of Toby both Napstablook and MK use neutral pronouns.

    There's actually one otherwise amazing Undertale fic, Ebott's Wake, that abruptly switches from consistently using canonical pronouns for everyone to inconsistently using a mixture of she/her and they/them for both Frisk and Chara with no explanation for Chara at all (their family inexplicably and suddenly switches to using only feminine terms...with no buildup or explanation at all), and about one line of throwaway explanation for Frisk, several chapters later, that doesn't actually really explain it.

    This is after eighty chapters of using canonical pronouns.

    Eighty. Chapters.
     
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  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    I can't read fic with Chara in it because I can't stand him being called Chara.

    no

    our bigendered hell child is alex and absolutely nothing else

    So a lot of Undertale fic is essentially dead to me.
     
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  18. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    Bigendered hell child, haha.

    (The reason they're called Chara by the fandom is a combination of the naming screen calling that 'the true name', their sprites being called Chara, and their name defaulting to Chara if you skip the naming screen or remove the name. So it's not just a random fandom name, it's their canonical name.)
     
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  19. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Oh I know why. I just fucking hate it. Because to me the canonical name is what I the player give them. Their canonical gender is also what I the player give them.
     
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  20. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    You could try wordreplacing "chara" with "alex" on ao3 whenever you want to read undertale fanfic?
     
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