What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. witchknights

    witchknights Bold Enchanter Defends The Fearful

    Ah, I see the sneaking of life philosophy as more lawful, because believing so so strongly on something that you proselytize about it in fic sounds like the lawful ridid adherence to rules and systems, to me
     
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  2. missoyashirou

    missoyashirou Someone please give me a tiny dog to play with

    Maybe that as the writer inverse to LE then? "Mostly IC and setting compliant, but forced proselytizing takes priority over characterization and plot, making you keenly aware of the writer's stance on philosophy and the economic structure of Harry Potter. Comments tend to be 20 paragraphs long, of which at least 10 can count as just wordy personal insults."
     
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  3. OnnaStik

    OnnaStik Relatively nice for a bloodthirsty mercenary

    Neutral Good writes fics about their headcanons so compelling and entertaining that they become widely accepted fanon.
     
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  4. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    My thoughts...

    Lawful Good: Writes canon-compliant fic so good that you almost forget it's not canon. Has a consistent update schedule.
    Neutral Good: Writes very long, well-thought-out fics. Could easily become a published novelist if they were so inclined.
    Chaotic Good: The absolute master of AUs--writes things that should by all rights be absurd in their concepts, but that hook you regardless. Has at least twenty one-shots on their AO3.
    Lawful Neutral: Fairly canon-compliant and good with characterization, but there's not enough uniqueness to their work for it to really stand out.
    True Neutral: Has plenty of ideas that they might want to write, but never gets around to finishing any of them. Prose leans a bit beige.
    Chaotic Neutral: Writes almost only cracky one-shots. Might veer into so-bad-it's-good on occasion, but nothing terribly offensive in any sense.
    Lawful Evil: An absolute stickler for canon, with fic that's too focused on being Right to be any fun to read. Leaves rude comments pointing out the most minor inaccuracies in other writers' works.
    Neutral Evil: Thinks their way of writing is the best way of writing. Recommends their own mediocre-at-best fic on TVTropes.
    Chaotic Evil: Writes AUs that should be absurd and are absurd--in a bad way. No grasp of basic spelling or grammar; fics are nigh-illegible. Possibly actually Tara Gilesbie.
     
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  5. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    I personally would try to steer away from "Good = Good writer, Evil = Bad Writer". Like... I can see Troll Fic that's in the "probably bad fic on purpose" category to be Chaotic Evil, but I'd steer away from equating all Bad Fic with Evil alignments. Afaik the Alignment Chart is supposed to be "All of these have good points but also drawbacks", because otehrwise the evil alignments would be unplayable.
     
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  6. winterykite

    winterykite Non-newtonian genderfluid

    Where would "Like a million excellent oneshots that would make for sprawling and gripping novels but nope, more oneshots it is" fall?
     
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  7. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    CHAOTIC GOOD. PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WILL NOT BE BOUND BY THE LAWS OF THE NOVEL OR THINGS LIKE CONTINUITY. FUCK YOUR SHIT HAVE MORE ONESHOTS AND THAT ONE MULTICHAPTER FIC THAT HASN'T UPDATED IN FIVE YEARS.
     
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  8. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Badly done sporkings.
     
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  9. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    ...You know, I'm tempted to say that Fix-it fic is lawful evil. There's a sense of code to adhere to... when the fic author feels like it. Of deciding what's good enough to support, and what to throw out.

    Stuff where the fic's author decides which parts of canon are good enough, and stays strictly canon-compliant with those parts, but rewrites the stuff that isn't. Maybe because they're taking a children's or ya canon and trying to make it more realistic, maybe because the original work jumped the shark and obviously didn't keep up its own continuity.
     
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  10. keltena

    keltena putting the fun in executive dysfunction

    /glances at FE14 fanfic notes

    ... I'm Lawful Evil. Fuck yes. :D

    #look #have you even seen how remarkably terrible this game's writing is #I'm honestly surprised it's not just an example in a writing guide of What Not To Do
     
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  11. winterykite

    winterykite Non-newtonian genderfluid

    Fixit-fic for Lawful evil sounds good.

    Sporkings tend to be on the chaotic side, but I'm not sure if you could declare them CE...

    and it would be really fucking nice if we could fucking stop equating evil with low quality, thank you very much.
    (Lawful evil people aren't called clowns. They're called lawyers.)

    I'm all for bad = low level; and good = higher level, though.
     
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  12. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    As long as we're working with one of those systems where you gain experience from experience, and not just winning fights.
     
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  13. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I was only going with "good=good writer" because while there's obvious "violating community standards of behavior" things for the evil alignments to do, I wasn't sure how to determine Neutral vs. Good if both of them follow the rules.
     
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  14. missoyashirou

    missoyashirou Someone please give me a tiny dog to play with

    I just want to know... What is the Tarrasque of fan fiction?

    Personally, I vote "complex and IC Star Trek or LOTR fanatics using one of the conlangs developed, with the language flowing naturally and as little grammatical weirdness as possible."
     
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  15. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    The tarrasque is True Neutral, though, so it can't be "look how close I am to canon." My money's on Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead or something.
     
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  16. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    mmmmmaybe Good > Neutral > Evil as "Cutesy Vanilla > Average > Kinky af"?
     
  17. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    But what if something is both cutesy and kinky af?
     
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    And those categories don't really apply if it's not shipfic.
     
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  19. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    fair!
    Hmmm... wordcount maybe?
     
  20. missoyashirou

    missoyashirou Someone please give me a tiny dog to play with

    Plus I just don't know how I feel about the implication of "pornier kinky fic= evil", even if it's just a DnD evil axis thing.

    3.5 classified Evil alignment specifically as acting selfishly and with self-serving desires. I feel like bashfics could be on the Evil spectrum somewhere, with good to evil being based on how awkwardly self-indulgent and weird about it a fandom is. So standard Self Insert fair that's still written to be endearing like Kylee Henke's stuff would be neutral, while a violent torture bashfic like Agony In Pink is CE?

    I also like word count, as a way of equalling effort? Like, nobody enjoys a non-drabble 480 word prologue that never gets a follow up besides the writer.
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2017
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