Writing What You Don't Know: The Assistants

Discussion in 'Make It So' started by jacktrash, Aug 3, 2016.

  1. bushwah

    bushwah a known rule consequentialist

    no, I know, but I only know about murders from the other side (trying to prevent accidental damage). so I'm saying: as far as I'm aware dislocation is a bigger issue than circulation, and I'm not sure loss of circulation is the default for that position, but if the rope's tied tight enough it will happen.
  2. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I write both, it can be useful for both! Also I want to know if a scene I'm reading in something else works or not. The character's hands almost immediately start feeling cold, which implies circulation problems from hands being above heart level too long.
  3. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    that could just be a panic response tho, depending on context.
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  4. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    How quickly will someone in a situation where they can't move very much- not totally immobilized, but, e.g., mostly bedbound or stuck in a small prison cell without exercise breaks- lose muscle mass? How quickly are there likely to be serious physical side effects?
  5. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    Well, from personal experience, 3 weeks basically bedbound in a hospital will cause loss of muscle mass. I was pretty weak for a while after I was released.

    This article (free, I think) might be useful? This one as well.
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  6. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    when i have a 2-week flare i lose all my gains from physical therapy. i don't become completely feeble, but there's a noticeable tactile difference in my muscles, they become softer.

    i feel like there's a plateau where you can spend a lot of time in bed and not get much weaker, a couple months maybe, you kinda stay at that 'cookie dough' stage but don't drop the rest of the mass. that might just be me though. i only lost enough to get wobbly-weak and noticeably smaller when i was in bed for 2 months after surgery.
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  7. Emma

    Emma Your resident resident

    For hospitalised bed bound patients notable loss of muscle mass occurs after a week. We encourage all our patients to at least sit up in a chair next to the bed if they're able.
  8. WolffyLuna

    WolffyLuna Active Member

    (Not quite sure if this is the right place) Does anyone have suggestions for diseases that mid-20s seemingly healthy person could get, that go from 'first obvious symptoms appear' to 'dead' in 24 hours or less? I was currently thinking of this character having the bad luck to have a stroke at a weirdly young age, but I'm not sure how plausible that is, or if there are more plausible things.
  9. Mercury

    Mercury 17 Quicksilver Scribe Tramples The Unrepentant

    There was that H1N1 strain of influenza in 2009-2010 that caused immune response overreaction in some younger people that caught it, and they died from it. I think the theory is that younger, more active immune systems are more prone to overreacting. Here's an article about it. Similar things happened with the 1918 flu pandemic.

    Meningitis is also known to kill young people pretty fast. 24 hours or less might be too short a window, but not sure.

    I do remember my mom had a co-worker in his 20s that died of a brain aneurysm. As far as she knew he was young and healthy (they worked in a factory building travel trailers, so physical fitness was a must).
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  10. Emma

    Emma Your resident resident

    Wrt to strokes: some people are unlucky enough to get strokes at such a young age. It usually means there's a hereditary problem with cholesterol or their vascular system. It can indeed kill you, especially if people don't recognize the symptoms as those of a stroke because a young person doesn't get strokes.

    You can also have various congenital malformations that can be asymptomatic but fatal at the wrong moment. Like venous arterial malformations in the brain that erupt and cause aneurysms.

    If you're specifically looking for something that kills usually instantly there's always Sudden Cardiac Death. That's where a person inexplicably drops dead.
    See more here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3017912/
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  11. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    If you want something infectious, septic shock can do you in very quickly even if you're young and healthy, particularly if thd infection was encapsulated and then opened suddenly into the blood stream.

    For traumatic stuff: spleen damage is good for seemjngly a lot less serious than if is because you can bleed out from those right quick should they develop into a rupture. You might develop that from an unlucky bike accident if you hit your stomach in just the wrong spot on the way down

    Heartmuscle inflammation damage from infections months ago can also drop someone otherwise healthy one Moment to the next after an exertion. There's a number of cases from this where soccer pros died on the field.
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  12. Mercury

    Mercury 17 Quicksilver Scribe Tramples The Unrepentant

    Congestive heart failure is another one that can strike seemingly out of nowhere - had a friend whose sister died of it. She'd complained of coming down with a flu or something one evening, was in the hospital that next morning, died that evening.
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  13. Acey

    Acey breathtaking, heartbreaking

    It's not too short a window--the daughter of a couple at my parents' church died of meningitis VERY suddenly in college. She collapsed in class and was dead by the end of the day, from what I understand. So that's a pretty feasible idea for such a disease.
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  14. WolffyLuna

    WolffyLuna Active Member

    Thank you for your suggestions!
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  15. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    relevant to a thing I'm doing
    if someone goes to court for a civil lawsuit
    the winning end for this is generally like. a monetary settlement
    is it possible/allowed in court to settle for something that isn't money
  16. Lizardlicks

    Lizardlicks Friendly Neighborhood Lizard

    Not generally in the US but idk about elsewhere.
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  17. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    To settle? You can totally settle for something that's not money in the US, especially when the lawsuit is asking for non-monetary things. You could settle a divorce suit, for example, by offering the house and visitation rights to the kids. Whatever it is, it should be useful to the party getting it and concrete enough that it can't be ambiguous whether you've actually given or done it. And ideally it should be relevant to the case.
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  18. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    okay cool
    thank you!
  19. The Mutant

    The Mutant ' w '

    god I'm getting hampered by my lack of knowledge of commonplace stuff for even the smallest writing practice

    this time it's roadside assistance!

    character A got two tires slashed after work in the evening. he has one spare ofc but two means he's stuck. he calls his roadside assistance cause him an Responsible Adult. what assistance would that be in this scenario? would they just like, give him a second spare to put on until he gets replacements, or just have him towed to an auto place? can you even drive on more than one spare at a time o_o;

    also is it reasonable to say there could theoretically be a wait time of an hour or two for the assistance to turn up if it's a busy night or somethin? so he could walk off and get a drink at the nearby bar with character B for reasons ;V
  20. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    So, this might change depending on area, but I had a tire blow literally a month ago and got very familiar with the process. :')

    In my case, roadside assistance towed me to an autoshop since I didn't have a spare (they gave me the option of picking one, which I did, or being taken to the nearest one) who replaced the tire first thing in the morning. I can assume it would have been earlier, but, the tire blew at around 5pm, the autoshop closed at 8pm, and because the tow company was getting slammed with assistance requests, they weren't able to reach my car until about 8:45pm.

    In fact, the tow company practically insisted I find somewhere else to wait (in part because it was Florida Summer, in part because I was on the side of the highway) since they knew it would take a while for them to get out, so it wouldn't be unreasonable for him to get stuck with a couple hours between finding his tires slashed and getting a tow truck. Flipside being that if he's in the city, that's going to be easier for a tow to get to than on the highway, where I was.
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