"I didn't actually stop to think about what the canon characters are like" characterization. Fic: Agh, I hate the outdoors, why did I agree to come to this summer camp? Canon: Has a treehouse bigger than his regular house. Used his playing-outside skills to save the multiverse.
I am not going to say that Tim is not partially at fault for his poor relationship with Damian; however, anyone who claims that the underlying problem is Tim being a bad brother and not Damian's repeated attempts to kill Tim is really, really missing things. Also, Damian verbally attacks and belittles Tim at every opportunity which honestly probably does more damage. And yeah, maybe things would be better if Tim made more of an effort to make nice, but I can't fault him for not wanting to. Just, I get really salty about fics that go poor Damian is just a child, it must all be Tim's fault! Like come on, that's unfair to BOTH of them. Am I missing some aspect of nu52 characterization or something? I have to admit I'm partial to pre52 in general.
they would have had to change a lot in nu52 for that to make sense Damian 'I will break your face' Wayne is absolutely at least in part at fault for the way his interactions with most people tend to be ridiculous horrible, unless you blame his mother for most of his maladaptive and horrifying behavior which'd be at least fairly reasonable in pre52.
honestly I just haven't read like any nu52 so I just assumed dc might've done a dumb and changed shit around in his backstory. the 'at least' was meant to communicate 'im sure about pre52, not sure about nu52' not an exclusive thing or anything language is a fuck sry >_>
Can characters in a pseudo-Viking Britain milieu maybe possibly not speak like early 2000s American teenagers? (Except when they did in canon, see How To Train Your Dragon.)
I would just settle for characters who were young in the 1960s and 1970s not thinking and acting like American teenagers.
Yeah I totally agree that that is some weird characterization for Damian. And kind of strips away the interesting stuff about him. Like, he can be, objectively, a little shit, but he's also a kid, and a lot of the time he's jealous or hurting and lashing out because he doesn't know how else to deal with it. That turn doesn't really have much narrative weight unless you also acknowledge that he's being mean or cruel. I'm mostly into pre52 and Rebirth, but there is actually a Thing in nu52 about this. Basically: Tim didn't encounter Batman until he was a teenager. His parents are still alive, and in witness protection. After Jason's death, he started working more closely with Batman, and took the name "Red Robin" out of respect for Jason. So Jason doesn't have beef with him, Damian I guess has less beef with him because Bruce didn't actually adopt him, and Dick and Tim aren't as close. Also Damian was grown super fast in an artificial womb so Bruce can have a 13 year old son with Talia and still be like 32. (However: recent Crisis-y stuff in Rebirth has shown that the timeline was meddled with, and 5 years were erased from the universe. This is why there are 2 Wally Wests, why the original Fab Five Titans didn't know each other but then remembered each other, and why Tim wasn't Robin and doesn't remember anyone named Connor or Bart. Basically: they're retconning the retcon.) I'm not a huge fan of nu52 Batfam stuff. I guess it does make jumping in easier, because you don't have to know as much backstory to understand the relationships between the members of the Batfam, but it makes them lose a lot of the intricacies that make them so fun. Like, calcified hurt put aside for the greater good is way more interesting than just a standard good-guy team up!
DC WHY that is mostly all i can figure out to say right now. Just. why. and yeah hard agree on the last paragraph I'm always a slut for simmering resentment and hurt all around. Let! Robins! Be! Maladaptive Messes!!!!
When you find a fic with a good summary and you're like, yes. And it seems well written and you're like, yes. And it's finished and really long and you're like yesssssss. And then the story goes in circles for a hundred thousand words, getting absolutely nowhere, and you weep in the dark whispering "why" to the cruel and uncaring void.
I'm reading a real solid fic about a dude getting involved with a cult, and at the start of things the MC keeps referring to the cult members as Jedi on accounta the way they dress, and it sorta takes on a fond tone as he gets sucked into things so I was on board with that for a while, but. The dude just won't stop calling them Jedi. There's this tense scene where MC is participating in a ritual that kills a woman he's grown close to, and he still won't stop calling them fuckers Jedi. It was real good at points, like there's bits when he's started living with them but is still convinced he's not actually a part of the group where he gets like blatantly manipulated and sorta half recognizes it, but brushes it off with a little joke about Jedi mind tricks and it's super good, but dang is it real tonally weird when he's watching a woman get killed.
Wouldn't fit! MC calls them Jedi cause they wear a white shirt + brown pants made of some kinda roughspun cloth that I can't remember, cause they're a farm commune cult that preaches ego death, so they're all hippy dippy and also nobody gets to have nice things. It occurs to me that I never said it wasn't a Star Wars fic, so. Whoops. It ain't a Star Wars fic. He calls them Jedi because he thinks their beliefs + their uniforms are dopey and stupid but the people are well meaning and ultimately harmless, and my gripe is that he keeps calling them Jedi long after he loses his contempt for their beliefs. Like, at this point he's into the group, he's partaken of their hallucinogens and watched a woman ascend to a higher state of being. He's terrified of being found wanting and getting kicked out of the club, but he's still using a term for the group that he doesn't apply to himself and it's weird and distracting.
this is not exactly a gripe 'cause i'm more amused by it than anything, but... an old rvb fic decided that washington's backstory wasn't angsty enough and added his mother being killed, when he was an infant, on christmas day to it! just so he could be sad on christmas!
I didn't think it was a Star Wars fic--I was just thinking what I'd say about a group I'd started thinking of as "the Jedi" after I found out they were actually murdering people. :) Even though the Sith are not even remotely into ego death.
